I can’t even feel superior to everyone when theirs so many arch installers!! I use real arch btw. I thought “I guess I should go to Gentoo” but then wait, CHROMEOS IS A GENTOO INSTALLER!
I feel like we only have two options now
- Ascend to BSD-land
- Ironically supporting Windows Unironically
edit: I have decided to replace my debian laptop with BSD
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Haiku
- Ascend to BSD-land. Start with FreeBSD.
- Once that becomes mainstream, go to OpenBSD, then NetBSD, then the very-rarely-used DragonflyBSD.
- Once that becomes mainstream (probably never, but still possible theoretically) switch to OpenIndiana, the FOSS version of Solaris.
- Then you can go to something even weirder, like the obsolete IRIX, the mysterious Plan 9/9front/Inferno, or the Rusty alpha-stage Redox OS.
Nixos. Definitely more complicated, but better, and superior 😎
TempleOS or make your own
I wonder what Terry would have thought of AI assistant coders.
hed call them satan spawn
Devil’s Drones
Yeah I feel that’s one of the ultimate things right there. Rolling your own distro and then providing that out to the internet. Oh you use Arch? Or have you tried TitanicX?
Haiku. It’s a reimplementation of BeOS.
Alternatively, you could use ReactOS and make it look as windows-like as possible, and then go and post on Windows support forums with solutions to problems that work for ReactOS but not for actual Windows, and then play dumb while calling them dumb when it doesn’t work for them.
I use arch btw.
fuck thats a good idea
My PC is an electro mechanical pinball table from 1971 (Williams Klondike, btw) running Puppy Linux.
My PC is an electro mechanical pinball table from 1971 (Williams Klondike, btw) running Puppy Linux.
You guys are snobs. No, seriously, youre totally elitist. You feel like the unappreciated scholars, so you shit on the people who know less than you.
TempelOS?
Upgrade to CathedralOS time
BazaarOS will be functional way before CathedralOS gets off the ground.
This is the only correct answer.
Unless OP is a chicken who can’t hack it!? Temple has everything I need and nothing I don’t.
Abandon technology and become a farmer.
This is the actual answer btw
John Deere support technician wrings his hands greedily.
What part of “abandon technology” was unclear?
They part where you can actually make enough money to pay the taxes on your land. ;)
Does a 60 years old tractor even count as technology? :)
I’ve driven an 8n ford, a john deere 40 and an international h1000 over the years, They don’t last forever and parts aren’t always available. And while they’re each powerful beasts compared to horse drawn equipment, you’re not going to adequately manage 300 acres with them these days. You need quite a bit of scale to compete these days.
If you’re not on TempleOS, you were never really serious about feeling superior
The closest we have come to god
Just live program your system from scratch every time you start your computer
Arch? So weak. I do everything only using the bios.
BIOS? I wired switches directly to the data and address lines of my RAM/CPU and toggle in the machine code directly every time I use my PC.
You’ve got it easy. I have to hand wind my core rope memory every time I want to open a new application!
Pathetic, I run FreeBSD on my abacus. And it runs Doom, too!
Bout to do a complete 360 on the GPL
MacOS is based on FreeBSD, with the kernel APIs almost fully compatible and the userland just taken from FreeBSD. Your turn.
year of the macos desktop
We’re up to 4% again 5% is back on the menu which will make 2026 also the year of the Linux desktop.
systemd anyone?
ducks for cover
plan9
If it was so good then where is plan10 though
Because it’s so good there is no need for plan10
holy ORZ
Don’t they know you never use a 9 in an OS? You go from plan8 to plan10.
Planx
This is the actual only correct answer. Plan9 is unix but better and with an animal pet like Linux.
And it’s from outer space!
no it’s from bell labs
bell labs is pretty close to far beyond alien civilization technology though…
yeah especially now that they’re finnish
Inferno would also be acceptable
Inferno would also be acceptable
Or revive an open source implementation of IRIX, port it for x86_64, and populate it with https://nekoware.me/.
… Or AROS (e.g. Icaros). Or is that maybe a regression, and only sense of superiority had from it, is from novelty and nostalgia…?
The best OS I cant wrap my head around.
NixOS is the new Arch. I’m surprised nobody here has said they use it yet.
Ive noticed this, arch almost just works but my nixOS friends are always complaining about something
Yessss…
Come to Gentooooo.
Come.
Muahahahhahaha. *Lightning & Thunder!*
Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.
Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.
Plan9 sounds like a more exclusive deal.
As someone who installed Gentoo from nothing but a Stage 1 iso and kernel tarball back in 2003, this is crazy to read. I was able to squeeze so much performance out of a 300mhz embedded board back then though compared to most distros… after the 6hr kernel build.
Stage 1 and 2 are no longer available (I mean technically you could, but it’s not suggested). Stage 3 was super easy, even with kernel from source.
It takes time, sure, but it can compile on background. I got 16 threads on my CPU, so leaving 12 for emerge, I can still use the PC.
I get that people joke about ‘days of compiling’, and maybe it’s real for a huge mass of packages, but even if, it doesn’t stop me from working.
Remember, the days of compiling was back when we were running this on 300-500Mhz single core CPUs with 5400RPM spinning rust and RAM amounts in the hundreds of MB.
The embedded system I was putting this on was a 300Mhz single core low power AMD processor with 256MB and a laptop 4200RPM 4GB drive. And yeah, it probably took over a day to compile everything… but it ran much faster than a stock kernel as I could customize the system to only have what it needed and leverage the on-chip ssl and video acceleration support. I used it for a NAS and home server for years.
I know, but that’s so long ago, yet the jokes are here anyway.
Which is shame, as it seems to be scaring away potential users.
Gentoo is easy and almost user-friendly.
Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.
Less prone to randomly biting your head off anyway.
More tame.
Takes more petting though, to get it to settle.
Really?
I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.
Apart from initramfs from install, which took more time, it felt like everything else just worked. Including installing Steam.
Really?
Yes. Gentoo really is like that compared to arch.
I never tried Arch, so I can’t compare.
Oh.
Specially coming from Arch it should be a breeze.
That^ made it seem to me like you had.
I just read a lot of Wiki.
But when I discovered how cool it is to compile stuff, I went straight to Gentoo, assuming it’s mostly the same apart from packaging.
NixOS user here; please do not recommend NixOS.
I don’t use NixOS btw.
i use nixos, i dont recomend nixos.
I use nixos and I do recommend it cause it’s cool. You will waste a lot of time, pulling hair trying to fix your config and regret all your life choices but guess what, it’s cool.
I thought the whole point of Nix was that it makes system management simple with the declarative config.
Simple? lol. It is easy if it works, a single command to replicate an entire system. But without an extensive upto date documentation like arch and having to learn a new programming language, it can be quite difficult for someone new.
After about a thousand commits in my config I no longer know how to do stuff the normal way. A few days ago I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out how to run python with modules without resorting to shell.nix
nix run nixpkgs#virtualenv ~/.venv . ~/.venv/bin/activate pip install foo # ...
I didn’t - I was just commenting on how its users are the new Arch users. It isn’t a compliment.
As a NixOS user…yeah don’t recommend it. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely adore NixOS but suggesting people switch to it when their current distro works perfectly fine for them is a disservice.
NixOS makes the hard things easy, and the easy things hard. It’s incredibly frustrating trying to get something that should be insanely easy to work on NixOS. A good example of which is Neovim with Lazyvim. on every other distro it’s not a big deal, it should be easy to install right? on NixOS you’ll be pulling your hair out trying to get the meson tree-sitter crap to work correctly. Or you’ll find stuff that has been specifically re-packaged or put into a flake to work for NixOS. ok that’s fine, that’ll work on SOME peoples configurations but if yours is ever so slightly more unique it won’t. And then you start to wonder and question if your configuration is wrong but the thing is with NixOS there’s no right or wrong with the configuration. Some people will suggest you use flakes, some people will say don’t bother. Some will say you should put every single thing in modules, some will say don’t bother.
So the problem is with NixOS is that when you start using it and understanding it going to another distro feels like you’re somehow reverting. BUT there’s the potential issue of getting stuck in the rabbit hole that is constant NixOS configuration adjustments to try and get that most perfect and smooth config out of your system. Currently I’m on Arch because I’m taking a “vacation” from NixOS. I have some important projects that are due soon and I just needed to get into a distro that will allow me to focus on them. In a couple weeks time however I know I’ll be back on NixOS.
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NixOS. And be really annoying about declarative software environments
But whatever you do, mark off late November through Early December and late May through early June, those are updates, and you only get limited time move to the next version before you start having compatibility issues with the previous release.
God I fucking love Nix tho.
It’s called Stockholm syndrome
LOL, probably.
I was Linux on the desktop at work for over a decade, changed jobs, they forced me to go Windows or Mac. Mac infuriated me with it’s half Linux half locked down BS, so I went windows, WSL came out and I was relatively pacified, kept Windows for a couple more years after I changed jobs again. Finally said WTF and tried Debian, bookworm just worked, steam, laptop, dual video cards, Got the hardest windows only software running in wine, worked around the mandatory no stuff. I ran it for 6 months, got bored. Looked at immutable. Watched someone on peertube doing a live sesh working on a mastodon or lemmy cluster in NixOS, fell down a rabbit hole.
Now, by default I have nothing installed I don’t need immediately, I have nix shells for yt-dlp, qemu, video editing, I need something it gets installed just for that shell and then it’s gone. Almost any package I could want is available. I clone my home directory and a couple config files, I can move my entire setup box to box. configs are stored in git.
But then, updates are scary. A lot of my packages are in the hands of people who didn’t create them. Probably 90% of the stuff I run is just a .deb file unpacked by someone who wants to run the app in Nix and decided to share the work. One of my core modules got stale after an update last week and it too me most of a night to figure out why it took me 10 minutes to boot.
It’s complicated enough I never feel like I understand it all. It breaks just often enough that I’m forced to learn more about it. It has a few super-powers that make me not want to swap it out with something else.
