My 55" 4K OLED LG is the single greatest TV panel I’ve ever looked at. I can’t determine any individual pixels, the blacks are black. I have no issues with it in the slightest. And I see absolutely no reason why any TV of that size should need 4x more pixel density (or whatever it is).
Not sure what the manufacturers were thinking, this chart has existed for a long time, you have to be sitting pretty close or looking at a rather large screen for 8K to make sense
What it feels like to look at a TV that’s close enough to justify 8K:
Yeah, most people aren’t within 6 feet of their TV, and most people aren’t buying 100" TVs either. 8K is relevant for virtually nobody.
A lot of companies are successfully working on larger panels (I saw something about a 165" TV recently), so 8K may have a good place in a theatre room one day, but that still leaves you a lot of problems to solve first, and is far from mainstream until all of that becomes a lot cheaper.
We bought a 60" LG LCD first. It was too big for our living room, so when the backlight went faulty and we were offered a refund we chopped it in for the 55" OLED, which is basically perfect for our room.
Turns out 5" really can make a difference.
I am sitting within 6 feet of mine, well lying in bed really. The 50 inches of my TV are huge from that distance and it’s still well within the 1080p zone of that graphic. And this 4k TV was already pretty cheap when I bought it almost a decade ago. I gave up watching 4k content years ago when I could not tell the difference to high quality 1080p content.
and then you have people like me who use 50inch TVs as computer monitors that sit on their desk.
Where would 1440p lie on this?
1440p screens are all monitors you sit 2-4’ from. That close you can justify a higher resolution but people pick 1440p for other reasons like frame rate.
Now get rid of advertising on smart TV OSes
just get rid of Smart TVs in general. Go back to simple dumb TVs.
If I want smart features, I can slap a Roku or something else on the TV.
I had to go out of my way to find a dumb HD TV years ago. I don’t know if they even exist any more.
Scepter is the only brand I know of that still makes Dumb TVs.
But the screen quality on them can be a real roll of the dice.
Do not connect your tv to WiFi.
8k is pointless. I even rarely use 4k on my 65".
I’ve never seen an 8k TV but ignorance is bliss as I’m still rocking 1080 and happy. I do see the difference at 4k when at friends houses but 1080 still looks good in my living room.
2k is nice. 4k is pushing the limit of utility, even if you can get content for it (or play games with that resolution if gaming). 8k is beyond any need for any normal person. Maybe if you have a private movie studio you could use it, but I don’t think that’s what this is discussing.
4k’s bump in resolution is nice, but the biggest benefit is the improvement in color (HDR or Dolby Vision).
2k is the best. For pc games it’s thr gold standard for me. I can hardly see the difference from between 2k and 4k and my GPU is grateful.
The only market for 8k is movie theaters and megatrons. It’s absolutely not necessary to have it in your tv in your house. And it’s also insanely expensive to get the proper hardware to drive it at full resolution.
megatrons
Fair lol
And it’s also insanely expensive to get the proper hardware to drive it at full resolution.
The shame being 8K (as 2x4K or even more) is awesome for VR headsets, but the only things capable of really driving them are stupidly expensive (thanks NVIDIA) or dual card setups (thanks Mobo producers for making that bad, and CPU manufacturers who insist consumers only need 20-24 PCIe lanes to artificially segment the market, sigh).
Most cinemas are 2k as well I think
Even your 4k Netflix is mastered in 2k and uprezed. Often shot in 6k to allow for zooming in in the edit
These days 12k at 14-16 bit is the norm.
IMAX has a laser thing that renders in 4K, but the point still stands. 1080p is good enough for me, and cinema once a year to have fun with friends.
The automatic HDR on my TV was a revolution because it changed the picture. 4K changes nothing.
It’s not like we went from black-and-white to color TV, it’s like “here are way more pixels but most people don’t care because they talk and drink during the movie.” Movie nerds may care and it’s fine, but I can’t justify buying a new TV for that.
Even there it’s wasted. There is just no place between pixel density, size and distance for anythng much over 4k. Humans can only see that sharp. Except maybe video walls, where you don’t see the whole image at once.
That’s what I meant re: megatrons (the giant video replay screens they have in a lot of big sports arenas)
Viewers are so far from those that 8k is not helpful. Also the cameras in the arena would not be able to make 8k video.
Obviously they should have worked on upgrading our eyes before doing that /s
The majority of ppl watching a streaming service with shitty res and crappy compression would do fine on 1080p
I agree. My Plex server is majority 720p with decent bitrate with a lot of 1080p with decent bitrate and a tiny amount of 4K with subpar bitrate (otherwise it’s too large). The 720p is noticeable on the big screen but good luck spotting between 1080p and 4K. It might be different with full 4K Blueray rips but I’m not using 50-80Gb per movie.
I’ve downloaded some 4k content to do side-by-side with 1080p and it’s a struggle to notice the difference.
It’s the next 3D.
They try to expand in all dimensions. Bigger panels. Higher res. Higher bit depth. Increased contrast ratios. Stereoscopics. Higher refresh rates.
Yet to find a real world use for anything over a 65" QHD at 60Hz 8bpp.
It’s very different. 3D TVs actually had a difference in viewing experience
It actually made it worse.
I watched only one movie in home 3d, but I liked it.
60Hz ewwww
8bpp ewwww too
I’m more than content with 1080p @ 60Hz
To this day, I I never owned anything higher than 1080
I bought my 1080p LED backlit 60" Vizio panel back in early 2015 and it’s still going strong!
I’m rocking a 720p TV but it’s smaller because I find big TVs gimmicky
We still have a 55” Vizio LED/LCD 1080p from 2012? Going strong as our living room tv.
Not upgrading till the panel literally dies.
Rock on, dude. I do almost all of my gaming from the couch so 1080p looks fine to me and my GPU doesn’t have to crank out 4K worth of pixels to drag down my FPS.
I’m still rocking the last good plasma panel, the Panasonic VT50 from 2009, it was good enough for 3d review of the first avatar film in meeting rooms and I’m just waiting for it to die so I can upgrade.
I got a 1440p monitor, it’s 32 inches, and predominately use the bigger area for coding
I got an 27" 4K screen at home and I wouldn’t want less pixel density for work. At work I got an 24" 1080p screen, which is OK, but not great.
