how is windows above macos lol
Because at least you can do gaming on Windows lol
MacOS has no reason to exist.
If you are ok running corporate software just use windows with its huge array of software and compatibility with pretty much everything.
If you want to be cool and different and have problems with software and hardware compatibility run Linux.
MacOS is the Porsche Panamera of operating systems. People just have it because it matches their 911/iThing
Apple’s chips on the other hand are very nice.
MacOS does have a reason to exist. It helps people get rid of those pesky thousands of dollars over-bloating their bank account every 5 years when they are told their Mac is obsolete.
Arch should be in its own tier: BTW
Yeah: the self-own tier
Is that GNU at the bottom? If so, bro, this dude don’t get it.
Have you tried to actually use GNU/Hurd?
Yeah, that’s why it belongs next to Arch
Arch is high skill floor high skill ceiling. Once you get good you can do really cool things with it. GNU/Herd is high skill floor low skill ceiling. If you’re really good and practice really hard, eventually you’ll be able to do things that could have been easier achieved with literally anything else.
Some people code recreationally in Malbolge and Befunge
yes in a vm, specificly Debian GNU/hurd, works suprisingly, main issues is lack of hardware support, for usage as a vm guest, I would say it is already better than half of the BSDs
Similar experience.
Except, props to the BSDs (especially OpenBSD), for being so much more coherent systems, as perhaps seen best (or at least easiest) in its man pages.
But then that is not the logo of Hurd, and Hurd is not the point of GNU
It’s kinda part of the original point… to make a complete free software operating system…
Still, was nice that the Linux kernel came along to make things easier than the more advanced approach Hurd was taking.
Linux Libre + GNU, and got the point of GNU none the less. :)
I have.
It was fine.
This was way back around 2014 iirc.
Lol Gentoo over here in two categories
Get Kali out of the Chad tier, please.
If they are a professional using it for thier job… yes, IMO that is Chad tier.
I use macOS as a professional so it should he Chad tier as well? Bad argument.
Kali is a specialized toolset. Like a tricked out car. Pretty cool if you are a pro driver pushing the machine to its limits. But looks pathetic when driven by a high school guy trying to impress chicks
I see no reason to view the chart as anything other than rating them as daily drivers though.
Guys, MacOS isn’t everybody’s taste, especially now. But it does do what it’s trying to do. Windows isn’t succeeding at anything it’s trying to do.
Vibecode will do that to you.
I haven’t coded in years and wanted to pick up python finally. I’m using ChatGPT to demonstrate all the wrong answers to problems and I have to admit it’s a great learning tool for an unexpected reason.
It is productively wrong. All the time. But by screwing with it I can learn why things do or do not work. It does not give me an answer direct but instead guides me through all the possible ways to screw things up and I can learn from that.
I haven’t coded since C++ and Java in high school outside some arduino shit I did for a bit in between and chatGPT has been great and bringing those skills back from cold storage in my brain.
But as far as put in question, get response it’s obviously terrible.
This kind of demonstrates the bigger problem though. Business majors are making decisions and not engineers. And business majors are fucking stupid outside their element.
MBAs do like to think they know everything just because they played the BSG in their senior year.
Missing Plan 9 from schizo tier.
That tier is my favourite, I just love Gentoo being in there. With Plan 9 it would be perfect!
I enjoy how Gentoo is listed in both chad and schizo tiers.
Is that X OSX? They renamed it back to MacOS.
On top of that, putting it below Windows? This is clearly someone who’s never used one or thinks gaming is the only thing you do on a computer. I’m all for Linux and use it in several places, but it has nothing on MacOS polish. Sure, it’s not perfect, but it’s a far cry from ChromeOS or Windows 11.
While I loath windows, I would still put it above Mac if only for the ability to put windows on whatever you want. Even if Mac is more polished, the fact that it only works reasonably on vastly overpriced, mostly unrepairable hardware kills any appeal it would have. Add in apple’s tendency to gimp devices as if a three year old machine is at deaths door, and I’ll go to a customized windows os every time.
Also the gaming thing. It’s not pinnacle, but it’s also not trivial.
My MacBook Air is five years old still has 92% battery it’s not even close to deaths door for either me of Apple. My XPS 13 is five years old and has had its battery and thermal paste replaced.
I haven’t played a video game since Oregon Trail was new.
I’m highly critical of Apple, their philosophy for proprietary hardware with an aggressive stance against right to repair, and some particular design flaws on specific models of their machines that are unacceptable for the price point they sell their products at. Not to mention their ball coddling of the fascist fuck in the white house.
But MacOS is definitely superior to Windows, game developers not focusing on MacOS be damned. The bloat on Windows is beyond overkill, and MacOS’s Unix based build for ultra specific hardware runs so much more efficiently. I used to play around with a hackintosh back when Mac OS X Lion was around.
Yup bought a MBP in my ignorant youth of 2008. It was beautiful sturdy HW at the time when most windows laptops were creaky plastic turds. After using Ubuntu for a few years Mac OS to me was like a nicer looking easier to use linux. However every 10-20 minutes the screen would flicker just once but it happened all consistently. Multiple report in forums about it and many cases opened but apple did nothing about it. Wouldn’t even acknowledge it was a problem. Finally 5+ years later when most people were moving on they made a bios patch that acknowledged the issue and fixed it.
I’ve had my old macbook for twelve years and the whole time it held up punching well above its spec range and running heavy loads. I customized it deeply. Never had to reformat, which instead I had to do more or less once a year on my previous Windows computers. Whenever I asked it to jump it asked how high. I don’t think longevity argument has merit, at least for computers.
To be honest my SO has an older MacBook and using that a couple of times convinced me to absolutely never buy one myself (regarding the os).
I had to google the most basic functions which you can achieve with a right click on other systems
It seems people don’t like my dislike of MacOS lol
MacOS doesn’t work exactly like Windows? The hell you say!
You know you’ve got a bad take when someone who doesn’t even like Apple is making fun of you. Just saying.
You can still right click on Mac OS. Two finger press on the trackpad, control left click, or just right click on any normal mouse.
Yeah I know, but I couldn’t figure out how to print stuff apart from pressing ctrl+p
File > print?
MacOS has a different methodology but the idea is most applications do things the exact same way every time, the menu at the top is standardized across software. Take some time to familiarize yourself with basic usage and then just fire up a new program and you’ll see what I mean. Keyboard shortcuts in apps are always the same for the same function. They’re easily accessible. Alt+f4 is fucking not, command+q is. Command+space to search for anything. That existed before MS implemented search in the taskbar. It’s got its ups and downs, but the OS is really tailored to make things accessible.
The reason it’s so wildly different from windows is partly due to a Microsoft going patent crazy on design and ui elements to try and monopolize home computing. Technically a “desktop” is their patent, which is why it’s called a workspace in every other OS. They also have been sued by Microsoft in the past over UX things.
I’m all for Linux and use it in several places, but it has nothing on MacOS polish.
Literally why I prefer a Macbook for work and a Linux desktop for gaming. The former just works with a little bit of setup (brew), the latter allows for infinite tinkering and customizability.
imagine having to install a whole subsystem to even gain proper environment access and capabilities…
I don’t care for WSL either.
Peak Script-Kiddie Shit.
/r/masterhacker laugh at you too much, op?
After I realized Ubuntu and Mint (the two distros I used the most) are both based on Debian, I switched to Debian with KDE Plasma. I don’t know why I never tried it before and I’m never going back.
The reason you’ve never tried it before is probably that they only recently made an effort to make it palatable for the average nerd. It always had a bit of a reputation of being not easy to work with.
It’s been fine for the average nerd for a couple decades. The installer has been mostly unchanged since 2005 or so, and I don’t see much difference in an installed system either. I think you can live boot it ahead of installation now, maybe that’s a big deal to some people?
The biggest deal was including non-free firmware on the install media.
In the past, if you used the official ISO and started the installation, it would format your disk and then inform you that it can’t connect to your Wi-Fi to download additional software.
Then it would install the semi-complete bare-bones system that fit on one install disc and boot you into a desktop with no network configuration.Ah, I forgot about that. Yes, that’s a pretty big deal. Thanks for pointing that out. Debian have always been pretty purist about non-free software, to the detriment of new users.
To be fair, back then Ubuntu was basically just “Debian preconfigured for desktop with a check-box in the installer to include non-free stuff”.
Debian today feels like old Ubuntu, and Ubuntu today feels like a distro made by a corporation desperately trying to enshittify Linux.
I’m glad they did, I like it since I was already used to the Debian way of doing things.
And an old reputation for hiding their ISO downloads buried deep in the website.
Yup that was me a few years ago. Its no longer the mid 2000s and stock debian can do pretty much anything right out the gate.
My typical Linux installation workflow:
- Attempt to install Debian.
- It doesn’t work because the kernel is too old to support my new hardware (even though it’s not always that new).
- Rather than trying to fix it, just install Kubuntu instead.
Failing to have graphics drivers for my gaming PC with a GPU I bought the day it launched is one thing, but Debian also failed to have WiFi drivers for the cheap N100 NUCs I bought for my kids the other day – with wifi hardware that’d been out for multiple years at this point – and that’s just ridiculous.
Kubuntu annoys me with Snaps, but it also Just Works in a way Debian unfortunately doesn’t.
Doesn’t have Hannah Montana Linux on the list so we know this guys opinion is trash smh
Maybe it is so high above every other category it didn’t fit into the chart
That has to be it.
The super secret super chad level above.
Oof, I really can’t wait for the AI bubble to burst
I pray every evening before bedtime it is a bobbel and the world economy finally will reset.
bobbelbubbleOr… was… that the joke?
Meh. Granite is open source, and as long as they don’t try to force integration with a third party service I’m down for local LLM integration. It’s not all chatbots, and LLMs happen to be honestly pretty good at searching through eg man pages and pulling out relevant bits.
“… brainstorming is already underway to figure out how to harness AI…”
Ah yes, the ol’ solution looking for a problem routine
Thanks for the notice
I don’t understand the hate for MacOS or Ubuntu frankly. Windows was fine until they stopped making “features” opt in. Fedora has been toying with adding AI, and my experiences with Arch have been subpar for my needs. I’m kinda at the point in my life where I don’t care as long as the OS works. They’re all so similar at the end of the day, they help me do the websites, work tools and vidya gaems.
I hope Windows 11 becomes microsofts death (and ofc the fact that their previous ceo liked to fuck children)
I think what will hurt them much more is the EU realizing the danger in dependence on American tech like Microsoft, and slowly replacing it with (open source) alternatives.
I hope so
Steve Ballmer is in the Epstein files?
Who was ceo back in 2000?
At the very least a point to pivot back in the right direction. Like with win 8/8.1 to Win 10.
Gentoo is both Chad and Schizo 🧐
they arent mutually exclusive
And Gentoo’s not schizo…
Nor are the rest on that tier… except the one. We all know which one.
honestly based categorization
