Soooo since Groening is in the files, and considering he fooled us with his “predictions”, which are now clearly due to his connection, is it time to cancel him? And I will look for another avatar.
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A fuck ton of randos are in the files. Keep in mind there’s also irrelevant stuff in there too.
We need the context.
Firstly I’m going to say I don’t know the extent that groening is in the files.
With that said then the thing is if ‘we’ go after everybody in those files then we will get no one.
The zone has been flooded with shit and the reason for that is so we stop looking at other pieces of shit that are far, far worse. And there’s going to be more floods for a long time until they have worn us down. And us going after everyone mentioned well just bring that weariness on quicker.Go after the big fish only. I’m not saying let the little fish should get away scot free, I’m saying pick the battles for now. Go after tRUMP, musk etc and the people in that circle of corruption. Get a person in those circles to turn on the bigger fish.
In a perfect world then, yeah, every proven deviant in those files would hang then get reprieved just before death and then put in a guillotine for choppy choppy time. But we don’t live in that perfect world.
Not “only”, just first, but yes
You’re correct. I should’ve said go after the big fish now then get the little ones later.
But if the little ones turn on the bigger ones they’ll get protection. Which, I admit, is not great but we’ve got to get the prominent deviants somehow.
i mean, ok, but if you’re in the files, i’m never gonna watch or have simpathy for your work - simpsons and futurama in this case. Being in the files is a big deal.
Someone communicating with Epstein does not automatically make them an abuser. I’m sure you’ve probably communicated with pedophiles before, whether you knew it or not.
This is the same argument used to say not all cops are bad.
Turns out if you’re not one of the bad ones you’re at complicit in hiding the bad ones. Same applies here.
Not at all the same thing. Cops are complicit because they know what other cops are doing. We don’t know what Matt was doing. You don’t know what anyone you talk to is doing. Until you do, it makes absolutely no sense to hate them or you would hate absolutely everyone.
Not hate, but I do dislike most people.
I think it would be naive to believe that someone corresponded with Epstein and had no idea what they were doing. Even if they didn’t partake.
Also what allegiance do you owe Matt Groening? I see no reason to defend another rich asshole.
I think it would be naive to believe that someone corresponded with Epstein and had no idea what they were doing
Based on what? Did you correspond with him?
what allegiance do you owe Matt Groening?
My only allegiance is to rational thought processes.
First of all Groening didn’t write much of The Simpsons. He hasn’t in a very long time.
Secondly, what’s the accusation exactly? Just that his name appears, or that it’s indicating something else?
that it appears
He’s also mentioned in Virginia Giuffre’s book, where she mentions him in the context of the 2001 Billionaire’s Dinner by John Brockman, which Epstein attended. As they left by jet, Groening hitched a ride with them.
CW: mentions of sexual abuse
[…]Matthew Groening hitched a ride with us on Epstein’s jet. I’m not sure how the two had met, although Groening, too attended Brockman’s dinners at times. I just recall that Epstein required me to massage Groening’s feet, which were calloused and sweaty and in terrible shape. I did as I was told, as usual, tempering my disgust with the knowledge that I’d now met the genius who’d invented the dysfunctional family — Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa, and Maggie Simpson – that had helped me survive my own family. Before we touched down, Groening kindly drew me two sketches that I asked him to sign for my little brother and dad. I never had any sexual contact with Groening. But in due time, Epstein would force me to have sex with at least two other people in Brockman’s circle.
Well, he should then have said: “Thanks for the offer, but my feet are disgusting right now after a day in these new boots.” or just “no, I’m good”.
But I think it would be far-fetched to assume that the masseuse is a minor (she turned 18 that year), or that a well-known billionaire relies on slave labour for a simple massage. My assumption would be that she probably landed a dreamjob with half the work and twice the pay.
So accepting that massage is at worst general scumbag behaviour as we witness it on an average day in the city. To be clear, I would absolutely not have accepted it.
terrible terrible
Matt Groening fooled us with his predicitions? The preditions are clearly from being connected to Epstein? Sure, Epstein could also see the future. Why not?
Can you link the files?
https://www.justice.gov/epstein
I don’t think there’s any specific document anyone is referring to. Just search for ‘groening’. There are less than two full pages of files. The name is misspelled even in a court document as ‘groning’, so might wanna check that out too.
Wow didnt know i could search the files like that. Thank you very much!
Glad this is of use :)
I can’t find it but I remember reading years ago him saying he was invited to some Epstein thing and it was creepy (as in girls/masseuses being suggestive or something like that) so he never went again. I believe he was on a flight log iirc
