So see now we have a problem, not that this guy was much trustworthy before. But now we will know he’ll lie about Epstein stuff.

So when he says he never went to the island does that mean it happened two times?

Lying, you mean. He knows what he did. He’s not demented, so him denying anything is just a straight up lie to conceal his actions.

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick has acknowledged committing perjury.