• Casual Apatheist@leminal.space
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    I actually did it. And I have abysmal knowledge of software but Linux is so fantastic. There isn’t one thing that I can’t do on it if it bothers me enough.

    And even the one proprietary software that I do have to use (for work, plz don’t ask) and comes only on Windows, works without flaw once I configure the WINE environment properly.

    Tried Debian, Manjaro, Linux Mint, MX linux and loved them all. They are all fantastic. Finally settled on Mint (I know) because it is the right balance of stable and updated for me.

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      Don’t feel bad about the distro you land on, especially not Linux Mint. It’s the #1 distro I recommend to completely new Linux users.

      I use it myself for any computer that I want a #JustWorks experience on. The Cinnamon desktop environment is super stable and easy to use. And so far, Linux Mint is the only distro I know of where you truly don’t have to use the terminal for anything even kernel updates/rollbacks, alternative driver installations, and major version upgrades.

      The Mint team is wonderful and they’ve created a fantastic product.

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      Luanti is great, but since the topic is about switching to Linux I feel the need to point out that Minecraft Java has been running on Linux I think from the very beginning. I use prism launcher when the kids feel like playing. The setup is more complicated than using the official Linux launcher, but it is more stable.

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          I’ve only ever had to do it once. also I personally feel like prism launcher is a LOT easier to use than the official Minecraft launcher.

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    Moved my three laptops to Ubuntu, Mint and Zorrin. A week later I’m still dealing with issues setting them up.

    Ngl, the move is more frustrating than linux nerds would have you believe. But a necessary move and I don’t regret it.

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      Moved my three laptops to Ubuntu, Mint and Zorrin. A week later I’m still dealing with issues setting them up.

      dunno about zorin, but what’s the issues with ubuntu/mint?

      And yeah, a lot of the time people will oversell the amount of progress made with linux for noobs, it’s come a long way and those OSes *should* be foolproof, but tricky and unsupported hardware be tricky and unsupported.

      Doesn’t help that some things are massive traps, like dual graphics card when at least one of them is NVidia, removing support for existing things via early wayland adaptation, etc etc.

      “But it works on my thinkpad! ™️” Well , not everyone bought a thinkpad/found one next to the trash.

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        Setting up my dev environment took a while and some troubleshooting.

        The last issue that I can’t seem to solve is streaming 4k videos in 265 encoding from my cheap network drive. I have all the codecs, and tried multiple different players, messed with vlc setting, no luck. Audio out of sync, or no video, or stuttering, or refusing to play at all.

        I can access those videos on my phone and even stream them to my Chromecast, so there’s no reason it should not work on linux laptops.

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        Also from what I’ve found out or at least seen in quite a lot of comments is that those same people who are always saying it just works on my machine are using quite old equipment, like at least 5-10 years old if not older. Of course it works on your computer…

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      If your computer isn’t very old, you should give Fedora a try. I recommend using Ventoy to try some different live ISOs, so you don’t need to commit to installing anything without trying it first.

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    Tell trackIR to release a linux client. I’m stuck with it and cant move until a Linux client is released

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    Until there is one, single distribution that the vast majority of people can install on their existing hardware, that just works, easily and conveniently, Linux will remain a relatively niche desktop OS. I think when Valve finally releases the desktop version is SteamOS, that might do the trick.

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      Why would you want a majority of people using the same distribution? It’s much better if users are distributed relatively equally among a hand full of distributions. More options with good developers and community support is better. In case something bad happens to one, it’s no problem switching to the next one over. Look at examples from the past: Ubuntu, CentOS

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        Why would you want a majority of people using the same distribution?

        I don’t, necessarily. I just think it’s the only way we will ever see widespread adoption of Linux on desktops. But, maybe I’m wrong. Honestly, I hope I am. I hope through changes in the culture and more education, people will make the switch. But, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t skeptical.

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          People need to: (1) have capacity, like a single mother with 3 kids and commuting to work 3 jobs isn’t going to switch even if it took less than a day, and (2) they need to see the value of doing so first. Lowering the entry barrier will help IMMENSELY, and then after that people are willing to put up with some slight amounts of effort so long as they know in advance it will be worthwhile.

          Unfortunately a non-technical mainstream normie isn’t going to know how to check their hardware first, and barely knows what software they themselves use (including the variety of plug-ins) on a daily basis, or how to know which ones they will have to give up using, and seek alternatives for.

          If such alternatives exist. Like, on a mobile device (including laptops, or an Android phone/tablet), nobody has ever managed to tell me an actually usable web browser that doesn’t burn up my battery in the background all day long like Firefox does - Firefox is an absolutely horrid shit app, which just so happens to be better than Chrome… barely.

          And what program/app is more crucial in this modern era than a web browser? So when people see the state that the CEO of Firefox has put that FOSS program into, and the lack of anyone else (e.g. LibreWolf) making a better app - which again must be usable by non-technical mainstream normie users - then they nope right out and never bother to reconsider.

          Note that the market share of people using desktops vs. a laptop or mobile where battery concerns are absolutely critical is dropping, see e.g. this article.

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        That issue wouldn’t matter to most people. People want what works. For now, Windows works for them. They wouldn’t care about community contributions, FOSS, and decentralization. If you want widespread Linux adoption, you need a robust. easy to use, and beginner friendly OS. Of course there are options like Mint and Zorin, but they still can’t quite do everything Windows does.

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        I’m sure you’re right, but the casual user hasn’t got a clue about any of that. They just want to turn their PC on and have it do what they expect it to do. The moment you start telling them about the advantages of one version over another you’ve lost them.

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    Only if you can make Word, Excel and all my games run natively without extra steps.

    linux user starts rambling about how it’s supposedly super easy, then drops gun and starts crying

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      I guess this is bait, but I installed LibreOffice explicitly to test compatibility recently. I was able to make the same Word document in both. I opened the LibreOffice doc in word.com and the only reason it was different was fonts. It did look fine in print preview. Excel functions and VBA both worked in simple tests. Bonus points for functioning on the 18 year old test system. If your argument is that LibreOffice looks like ass, then I agree.

      Now, if you can’t let Windows go because of Roblox or Apex, I can’t help you. All of my Steam games work, and I have games in Epic and GOG launcher. Sometimes I have to click options and select a different proton, but that has not been an issue since upgrading from my 10 year old video card to something new.

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        Nah, I need those fonts for my job unfortunately, because we have standardized fonts and we use a program that explicitly requires Microsoft Word.

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            Oh, okay. I can’t right now, but I might do so later. Is there any good way to save a comment for later on lemmy? Maybe with that star symbol?

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          If you are doing word merges or something and need to have a standardized load then you are kind of locked on there. We aren’t all lucky enough to have an in house team that will build a one-off app to do whatever.

          Extra-stuck if it is postage or banking related.

          Now, if it was a home PC, then the Windows tax is making less and less sense.

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            Yeah, I can’t wait to ditch it for linux. Although the Windows tax is not as expensive as the Apple tax. You mostly pay with your nerves…

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              May be with your time to move your work stuff over to a used business-class machine. You can sometimes find them on the cheap at auction or whatever. My current batch was acquired for a song. If you live anywhere near Cincinnati Ohio I can get you one for extra cheap. I’d rather take the talk to DM, though.

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      Every single game I’ve ever tried playing works

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          You do, however, seem to be in the minority. The only games that don’t work, for the most part, are games with kernel-level anticheat where the dev has chosen to not allow Linux to work.

          Proton often runs games better than playing on native Windows.

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            No, those games are single-player games without anti-cheat. It’s possible that Proton has issues with older Intel processors or integrated GPUs or something. The games just don’t get running most of the time. Fortunately Battle Brothers still runs.

            Don’t ask me what the fuck is broken with it, but it is. Proton may work better on newer systems with more cores in the processor, but it certainly has some black spots in terms of retro-hardware-compatibility apparently.

            I don’t know exactly, because nobody wanted to help me troubleshoot the problem so I just gave up.

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        Honestly, I first installed linux on a machine in like 2006 or 2007 or something. It just doesn’t do what I need for my main machine and I don’t need to run two computers with synergy for more monitors anymore. I have a dual-boot, but I literally never use the thing because it doesn’t run Voicemeeter or VB Cables and JACK isn’t really a substitute.

        It would be nice if Linux ran everything I need, but I’m not about to change my entire workflow and sacrifice useful programs to save a little overhead on my operating system.

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          Understandable, since my main computer needs some fixing, i adapted a small laptop to a dual booth solution, mainly bacause i sort of want this to be a usable solution and because it’s a small laptop.

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            If I had the cash to spare a laptop running Linux would be a pretty nice addition. Maybe one of those old netbooks with a mouse nub if any of them managed to avoid ending up in a landfill.