Yeah this looks promising, but currently the spaces XEP lacks any kind of combined moderation features, so this will get a bit annoying when you add a lot of channels and have to ban spammers etc. in each channel individually.
Hopefully there will be another XEP to solve that problem soon.
Ah, that’s unfortunate. Without that being a bit more polished, the Discord refugees may not stick with it, and instead head to Fluxer, which is currently quite buggy, but farther ahead in UX polish. I suppose that wouldn’t be too bad, considering its also GPL and plans to implement federation and limited E2EE.
That link is dead, but I think this was some vibe-coded weekend project or so?
I am also doubtful many Discord users will stick to XMPP or Movim in it’s current state, but most will probably stay with Discord after all and not switch anywhere.
Looks like it’s back up now. According to the dev in a long blog post on it, they’d been working on it in their spare time for the past 5 years, but do admit to some limited AI use recently.
Seems somewhat more substancial than I thought at first when someone pointed out the HN post to me. Lets see what comes out of it, but network effects are the main reason people stick to Discord.
I have come across on some Public Discord Servers creating channels that are Bot Traps. You comment on them and your banned. Maybe something like that could help the Bot Spams?
There are various spam fighting tools for xmpp in general, but they are not nicely integrated with this new spaces feature, which IMHO makes them too difficult to use for regular Discord server admins.
However I believe we will see at least some moderation bots supporting XMPP spaces soon, so that would be a stop gap solution until there are proper specs for spaces moderation.
I tried movim for like 2 minutes. It was too much. It felt more like a full social network (chat+mastodon in one?) than just a chat software. I didn’t like that. Too convoluted and complex. And the UI/UX was confusing.
I really want XMPP to do well though.
Fully agreed. The social network features were exactly what I didn’t want in an XMPP client.
funny that another comment mentions a clone called fluxer when i recently installed a XMPP client called “fluux messenger” that mimics discord
feels very “well one of us is gonna have to change”
Yeah that is a bit of a weird coincidence.
