Summary
Police say King Charles’s brother is in custody and officers are carrying out searches at addresses in Berkshire and Norfolk - read the police statement in full
As an American I find this confusing to arrest a rich, powerful person on criminal charges.
Especially a rich white person
A rich, white, pedophile! Arrested. Have they no respect? What will they do next… tax them?
They’re not going after him for Pedophilia.
Apparently as per the rationale of some very pro-Royal British newspapers, the police doesn’t have the resources to properly investigate and prosecute him for Pedophilia, even though according to the news just the other day they arrest 1000 people a year for that very crime.
Yes, I’ve read. I hope it’s one those “Al Capone arrested for Tax Evasion” things where they just went for the one that was easier to prove. I know very little about UK law, but I doubt he would have been arrested on those charges if he hadn’t been already disgraced.
But my joke was more on other rich, white, alleged pedophiles with ties to Epstein and the weird fact that people keep bringing those things up when the DOW is over 50000
trump/fElon next please
Because the other rich powerful cunts already decided they don’t care about him
There is more happening on a global level from the findings in the Epstein files then there is in the US. The US just gets tweets and soundbites on the news. The US is a joke.
Sadly, as I understood from a report I saw this morning, it’s not in connection to his pedophilia but to sending highly sensitive gov docs to Epstein which may have been used for financial gain.
But at least he’s been arrested for something
And they arrested and imprisoned Al Capone for tax evasion. The important part is they arrested him, and secondly that it was for something related to Epstein. Hopefully the ensuing investigation will cause more details to be revealed and a wider reckoning to occur, but either way, he’s no longer free.
In the UK there’s quite the tradition of using the Justice System to merelly whitewash the crimes of the Aristocracy, so better wait until the trial is over before one starts celebrating this.
I’m hopeful, Al wasn’t as well connected as Andrew, and seeing how the US has pursued it, I hope the UK does better.
which still comes from the Epstein files right?
Especially when the US justice system nailed Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein with fewer adult(?) victims.
over the alleged sharing of confidential material by the former prince with late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein
Really? Not because he’s a sex offender himself maybe? I’m happy to see an arrest, but fucking really!?
That was probably the best angle to start an in-depth investigation into his dealings with Epstein. Evidence that comes to light during that investigation can still be used for additional charges.
They got Capone on tax evasion, etc.
Max sentence is life imprisonment, so I guess I shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth, but it would still be nice to call a spade a spade… and other idioms
Might be a matter of what they can prove definitively. Better to hit him with a charge they know will stick than one that he has a chance to wiggle out from.
Because even in the Epstein files most people aren’t saying “ay Jeff, cheers for the fifteen year-old lasses we all shagged, see you next time,” but they are saying “here are the minutes of the cabinet meeting/this is what the prime minister thinks about regulating your company/this is the most he’s willing to give you a tax break for” in emails because that stuff had to be communicated somehow.
We can all see that Andrew probably committed some sex crimes. But being a suspicious creepy fucker, being accused, and having a photo of you crouching over a girl would not be enough evidence to get you or me charged with a crime either. The counterweight to “nobody is above the law” is “nobody shall be convicted except on the evidence.”
Yes, sadly, this will be about selling state secrets, not pedophilia. Of course, Trump did the same thing out of Maralago.
It’s sad that all too often there is insufficient evidence to charge people with sexual crimes, but he’s being charged with a very serious crime for which there apparently is sufficient evidence. It’s no competition, but betraying your country causes small amounts of harm to millions of people, which is not less important than causing extreme harm to a small number of people.
The worst part is that the evidence exists. It’s just that the US is doing nothing with it. The best anyone can do is sieve through the breadcrumbs they gave us and do the most we can with it.
CPS generally charges what they can reasonably prove.
*and since he’s high profile I expect (hope) they aren’t going to fuck it up. get him for something like this, maybe it opens the doors to further charges. Anyway, living in hope.
Across the pond, whenever they’d get a big Mafia don, usually it wasn’t because of all the bodies in the river wearing concrete shoes. Usually, it was due to unpaid taxes or some white-collar bullshit. I guess they take what they can get?
They probably have to start small, it’s unprecedented territory, and they’d want the proper charges to stick. I expect this also opens up the door to evidence gathering for the bigger charges.
Unfortunately, I fear most of the fallout from this will be that we “know” what some people did, but few will actually be held legally responsible. There’s the bar of proof that satisfies the public (the “sniff test?”), and what’s required for a conviction in court. In the end, any punishment is better than none. One up side could be that, because of what the public “knows” happened, those that are punished will hopefully be unlikely to see any lenience in sentencing. Not hopeful after seeing Maxwell’s treatment, but early days.
We can hope Mandelson is next, he shared information with Epstein too if I recall.
They never go down for their worst crimes. Usually they are guilty of horrible things, killing people with greed and knowing lies, but get taken down with sex scandals. So when it’s an actual sex scandal I’m not surprised it’s some other thing.
I think because other connected people don’t want to be implicated, so they make sure the person is convicted on something unrelated and use their influence to keep the charges off the larger issue perhaps. Never more true than with this case, they are all implicated. Who is they? Every swell in the US and UK apparently. Just presume anyone in the US that went to the ivy league and was in a private club hung out with epstein. (Private clubs started after civil rights triumphed, when they had to start taking in deserving poor and minorities, they started the clubs to differentiate between the aristocracy that almost exclusively runs our business and government, and the dirty charity cases.)
The grand old Duke of York
he had 12 million quid
He gave it to someone he’d never met
for something he never did
Well actually it was the taxpayer that had 12 million quid, then gave it to a sweaty nonce for some ungodly reason
glad the queen is rotting in hell
But tourism or something
I did not expect this.
Sadly, this proves that even the infamously evil ROYAL FAMILY has more integrity than Trump and our politicians (including Democrats).
Which is fucking terrifying, really. Brace yourselves, keep your chin up, and all of that
Someone on bluesky said that SCOTUS has made American presidents less accountable than British monarchs
I cannot disagree! We can see the effects of “corporations are people” and “money is free speech” all around us.
Every year the corporate dystopia gets more obscene.
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Note that he didn’t got arrested for the pedophilia part.
Also, this being Britain, best wait until the end of the trial to see if he gets convicted and if the sentence is in line with that for similar situations
When comes to nobles over there using the Justice System as a form of whitewash is pretty standard: there’s this story of some Peer getting convicted for a second time for Fraud and the high court judge letting him go without any penalty saying that “the shame of a conviction is enough”.
Funny how I knew it wasn’t in America not because of the name, but because someone in public office went into custody.
He’s being arrested for sharing official documents. Not the disgusting crimes he committed against children and/or women. It’s not real accountability, it’s theater meant to placate the angry masses.
I read some analysis on this in the guardian, it predicted this would happen, because the police have limited resources and can only follow up one of the two charges. This charge is chosen because there is far more likely to be incontrovertible evidence, probably in the form of paper trails etc. Whereas proving he raped children decades ago relies on witness testimony, which is far easier for his very expensive (taxpayer-funded, mind) lawyers to talk down in court.
If this cunt sees a single day in prison I call that a win.A good sentiment, though I suspect you shouldn’t hold your breath on the prison thing - he’s already been released from custody.
Of course he has. The law is made to protect him.
Go check out the fawning coverage of The Royals by The Guardian over the years.
It surprises me not at all that “on such an unfortunate occasion” The Guardian would be busy spinning a “reasonable” rationally for not taking to court a member of the Royal Family for those crimes which would result in a lot of dirty linen being washed in public.
“The policy have limited resources, nothing we can do about it, best let it go”
(Curiously, the police have the resources to, for example, go after people against the Genocide in Gaza as Terrorist Supporters or Demonstrators for “Disturbing Public Order”)
I’m in complete agreement
Trump had crates full of official documents in his bathroom and nobody touched him in four years.
theater meant to placate the angry masses
Thousands of years into our civilization and the oldest tricks still work the best. The more things change and all that.
edit: that said, Epstein was almost definitely working as a double-agent between various organizations, maybe a quadruple agent or more, he wasn’t so well-connected and powerful just because he dealt children, he also dealt secrets between superpowers, so just having contact with him as a state official puts a massive spotlight on you as a security risk.
National governments care a lot more about you being a security risk than they do about you hurting kids.
It’s likely all they have sufficient evidence to charge him with in their jurisdiction.
Yeah… but I have to assume, given the ruling-class solidarity, that that’s because they don’t adequately investigate the reports by the victimized women / children. I know that’s how it goes in the US.
There doesn’t really seem to much being shown here. They’ve not secretly come and arrested him quietly questioned him and released him and from the photos it doesn’t look like he’s been told “don’t worry it’s a dog and pony show, we’re just going through”
How far that stretches, we’ll have to see, I doubt he’ll see a cell but let’s give them some time to see how things develop.
I mean it’s obvious he’s disfavored by the “”“royal”“” family (sorry I’m partially Irish American so, genetically and historically predisposed to hate them), I assume he did indeed act without their approval or permission. I just don’t think he’ll ever be punished for victimizing women and children. I don’t think any of the Epstein class will be, unless some of them live to see the day where they all can be. (I think they’re too old and it’ll take us too long to get there.)
I’m normally optimistic but I don’t see it. If I’m wrong though, I’m ready and waiting for it.
The penalty is mostly fines. Even sharing military secrets in UK is only 2 years. WTF Brits.
OTOH - consider the plight of Manning and Snowden. Perhaps a penalty of 2 years would encourage whistleblowers?
Many Democrats have been arrested. The fascist political persecution is already in full swing.
Oh, I see, it’s funny because it’s not true! Ha ha! Ohhhhh
This should put enough pressure for Trump to be next, right my US American fiends?
You have to start by removing his title.
I think you play by different rules. The more mentioned points system means you get more protection in your version.
Lol, no. Trump isn’t going to be prosecuted for mishandling government documents. Again.
trump/fElon should both be in prison right now, but I dont see it happening
Finally! An arrest!
Meanwhile in america: {crickets, followed by a tumbleweed blowing across a sand covered road}
And that’s after the obese orange child rapist was best friends with Epstein for decades, and has been mentioned many thousands of times, with thousands of pictures, and numerous sexual accusations all in the Epstein files.
The fat cunt could shoot a baby live on TV and no fucker would do a thing about it.It’s incredibly conspicuous that Trump hasn’t arrested anyone over this. He’ll take any opportunity to persecute his perceived enemies, and plenty of them are in the files. He sues people over absolutely nothing. It’s weird that not one prosecution has gone down. He’ll probably even pardon Maxwell.
Yeah, but have you considered the Dow? The Dow is at 50$… or something.
HOLY CRAP IT’S REAL.
I didn’t believe it when I first saw it. FUCKING AWESOME.
He’s only 66?! Damn, he looks 80.
He’s been holding all that sweat in, makes you get puffy and age faster.
I wsn’t expecting to develop begrudging respect for England today.
Add South Korea to the list.
That also Filipinos have sent Duterte to The Hague.
Aaaaand they released him
They have to, this was for pre-charge questioning, and they have time limits on custody for that. They’ve also searched 3 of his properties and his former residence. The question now is when and if they formally charge him.
I am taking a wild guess that other kiddy diddlers do not get this luxury treatment.
He’s not getting out of the eventual trial, and considering the time frames I really doubt he’s winning.
Hang the childfuckers high! As per law with due process obviously, and yes I know they don’t have the death penalty which I do not support generally because we can’t trust authorities to get the right people let alone to decide who should be executed.
Still though, send this guy to like a penal colony on some island north of scotland or something, building sea bird habitat on bread and water rations.
He been arrested for misconduct whilst in public office, so not for being a nonce. It’s for sharing information.
They can lay additional charges later. This just gets him in the system.
For sharing information about adults fucking children?
Some of those who have billions
Are the same who rape children
RATM
The nonce formerly known as prince facing justice? Wow. I’m looking out of the window right now waiting for the pigs to fly by.
What concerns me more is preparing to deal with the monkeys that will be coming out of my butt.
there’s something clever in there, I can feel it… something something the difference between a nonce and a prince is PR… i…
needs work
I wonder if he’s finally sweating now.
