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How long have you had it? No issues?
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Distribution support outside of the standard Ubuntu/tuxedo os was terrible for a long time. The fan support was essentially broken on my laptop except on the officially supported systems. Your can manually compile the (bloaty node.js) tuxedo control center, but instructions on GitHub are wrong and incomplete.
I recently saw that they now added support for Debian 13 though, so that might be worth another try.
There is also a community project tuxedo-rs but with limited device support. Doesn’t support fan control on my device but is much nicer than the original otherwise.
I have one running Arch. Works well, AUR has the tuxedo control centre and Tuxedo provides a short guide for Arch.
Add I said, some models are supported, if you have a different one good luck
I would not use an unsupported OS on a laptop, of course you had trouble with it. Laptops have always been notorious for having worse hardware support in Linux.
This is not a ding against the laptop.
Why are there no links here???
Edited, thanks !
I genuinely thought that this was a meme about stereotypes around how different countries name products for a second.
I dont get it tbh
Well, “european”. But have to start somewhere.
Are they not?
The brands are, yes.
Parts are not. Didn’t look more to see if assembled in the EU or just designed in
Well if you look at parts then a european or even US laptop is just not possible.
I always like to throw in MNT. Haven’t had any experience with it though.
Very good list of recommendments, also my choices!
(To be fair, there are more good ones in that thread, but I’m not complaining).
edit: also, there’s Novacustom which is Dutch and lets you customise a lot of shit.
Actually had a terrible experience with star labs, not recommended
What happened?
Your link didn’t work for me. I had to wait several seconds for a redirect that then said “there’s nothing here.”
Weird, for me it says it’s a blahaj zone link and works
this one uses a feddit uk link - does it work?
Yes, thanks, that one works.
Which of them laptops have a track point and three mouse buttons so it can be actually used on the LAP?
I’d love that, but I’d also happily accept two mouse buttons and a normal touchpad over one giant buttonless panel.
sir, ebay is that -> way, we do not have old thinkpads. /s
honestly laptops are becoming the new phones, all look the same, and a reasonable priced ones can do whatever I want to do on a laptop.
so boring . . .
Just saying, they are not produced in Europe which is what this post is about. 99% of laptops are trash nowadays.
they ain’t even being produced anymore, so u are not supporting murica anyway.
now eBay on the other hand is prob not the best on the topic but each country got it’s alternative, here in Portugal it’s Olx.
Starbooks get assembled in the UK.
Tuxedo is manufactured in Germany.
Slimbooks get finished assembling in Spain.
How are they in terms of reparability?
I really like the ethos of framework… alas, they are from the US. But if you are going to buy any US tech, you can’t do better than them.
Yeah, I would switch from my Framework to a Slimbook if they offered upgradability.
They could make parts that work to the Framework spec, that is open source, which would he awesome.
When you think about it, framework makes the perfect work laptop.
Why?
They are too overpriced to buy for personal use, but a company doesn’t care and will write it off in five years, at which point you can buy it for basically nothing, order a new mainboard, polish it up a little and you have yourself a brand new high end laptop for under a thousand. The system does not account for actually repairable electronics :)
I really like the ethos of framework
Yeah…
https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
Of course that’s “just” their CEO. Some nice Linux first devices, though.
Just read the literal second post with their reply man
The CEO’s non-replies and eventual silencing of all discussion is exactly the point. Support continues, customers ignored.
How is the experience importing from the UK these days? I have avoided the UK at all costs since brexit. As I didn’t feel like possibly having to deal with customs and delays, etc. Is it better now, including automatic taxes? Or best to still avoid it if there is a reasonable alternative?
At least in Finland last I did 2 years ago it was still a pain, and extra taxes
Man, I really miss when we had home computers to rival the Americans, like the ZX81.
Fedora is an American distribution.
That slimbook afaik also comes with non-Fedora options. Fedora is developed by the community, so I wouldn’t worry too much, but, in case;
tl:dr; if you care about it being beginner friendly, go for Linux Mint. if european & privacy is important, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
i’d also go for the GNOME one, that’s more customisable. KDE is a little more beginner friendly à la “less is more”.
It doesn’t matter for open source.
, we said about Android and Google.
Yes, it’s backed by Redhat/IBM but it’s a community project. If things goes sideways it’ll be forked and continued as if nothing happened. Using any Linux distribution, you’re using tonnes of US software. They are still absolutely free and open, this is not comparable to Android that proprietary parts and locked in hardware.
Looks like they actually have their own distro https://slimbook.com/en/slimbook-os
Out of curiosity, why if fedora considered American?
Fedora is put our by Red Hat, which is owned by IBM, an American company.
That being said, I use Fedora. Its a great OS.
I didn’t know about the acquisition. That said, not all things American are against EU interests. And this one is free and open source.
I use Fedora too. I’d switch to EU owned, but I need something stable. Hopefully EU government support for open source grows stronger
openSuSE is German. I’d say that’s pretty stable.
I don’t care so much about the origins of an OS honestly, but since fedora is owned by Red Hat and IBM I don’t want to touch it. Particularly given IBMs involvement with AI and other such bullshit.
I might try this. I saw opensuse Aeon. I use silverblue. After using an atomic system, I’ll never willingly go back. The stability is wonderful
I use Tumbleweed on my main PC, mostly because I remember upgrading systems being a bit of a pain back in 2008 and I rather liked the idea of rolling release. SuSE also made snapper, a BTRFS snapshot manager.
The only time I’ve had problems with my PC is because of NVidia driver updates.
Aeon looks interesting though. Going to look into it deeper. I’m in the process of switching my main work computer from Windows 11 to Linux, and I’m contemplating what would be the best option for stability and maintainability. Nix has been appealing but it feels like that might suck too much time on maintenance, one of the reasons I want away from Windows.
OpenSUSE is an option. Tumbleweed is stable and has btrfs snapshots by default. I found Leap ironically a bit less stable, the default installers wasn’t as polished as TW’s last time I used it, so the experience was a bit less intuitive.
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I have a star labs Byte. It’s an intel n355 that sits under the tv to play emulated games it runs time crisis pretty well :) and it runs jelly fin/sonar etc to transcode stuff to Apple TV. The other nice thing is the bios is open source coreboot. I’m currently trying to silence the fan which at least is possible because of the open source bios
The biggest down side of my inifintity book is that my right shift key is a painful stretch. Because they use full sized arrow keys and the up takes up the useful half of the right shift.
So half the time i hit up instead of shift and start typing my sentence on the wrong line. Its fucking infuriating.
God knows why they made that choice but next laptop i will be sure to watch out for that
Are they any good
And are there models actually for sale or is it all RFQ/vaporware?
I also like:
Both suppliy computers with Coreboot firmware.
