• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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      We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.

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        We… we lost two THAAD radar arrays, already.

        https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/irgc-destroys-second-us-thaad-system-uae-radar-qatar-early-warning-iran-missile-dominance/

        We… can’t intercept too many missiles without those.

        They’re like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.

        And… I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.

        We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.

        This is … beyond completely tits up.

        Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.

        And… what, we’re gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to … shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?

        Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn’t figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.

        This is… extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.

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          They’re moving at least one from S Korea to replace one of the destroyed ones. Hopefully it gets blown up too.

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            Double post, but…

            Its confirmed.

            https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/us-moving-parts-of-thaad-anti-missile-system-from-s-korea-to-middle-east-report

            The United States has been moving parts of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system from South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post reported, citing two officials.

            The reported movement of parts of a THAAD missile defense system comes amid media reports that the U.S. military stationed in South Korea has shipped out some of its military assets amid an intensifying war in the Middle East.

            “The Pentagon is moving parts of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system from South Korea to the Middle East,” the report said.

            https://www.chosun.com/english/world-en/2026/03/10/MSS6VLC4ARGEZPD6W7NJNFJ344/

            The United States, engaged in a war with Iran, has begun relocating part of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system deployed in South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post (WP) reported on the 9th (local time), citing two U.S. Department of Defense officials.

            The South Korean THAAD system appears to be being at least partially dismantled and redeployed.

            … against the wishes of South Korea.

            https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/s-korea-regrets-transfer-of-usfk-air-defense-assets-to-middle-east-lee-says

            The Korean government has expressed its opposition to the transfer of some U.S. Forces Korea (USFK) air defense weapons to the Middle East, President Lee Jae Myung said Tuesday, but stressed that the move will not weaken the country’s deterrence against North Korea.

            Speaking at the beginning of a Cabinet meeting in Cheong Wa Dae, Lee addressed the growing debate over reports that some U.S. air defense batteries stationed in Korea have been transferred abroad.

            “We have expressed opposition to USFK transferring some air defense weapons according to its own military needs, but it is also the reality that we cannot fully enforce our position,” the president said.

            “If you ask whether this creates serious obstacles for our deterrence strategy against North Korea, I can say with certainty that it does not,” he said.

            I mean uh, pressing X to Doubt on that last part, obviously you would say “Don’t worry, everything is fine,” … but yeah, we, the US, appear to be using the South Korean system for parts, and SK President Lee says he can’t stop us from doing so.


            Meanwhile, Trump is utterly losing his shit, and in, what, less than two weeks?, has gone from ‘we are going to let Iran liberate itself’ to ‘we will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back as a nation’.

            https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116202054617775180

            If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far. Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen! This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

            … back when Trump did Midnight Hammer, the strike against the nuclear sites in Iran, I compared him to Kefka… evil whiny clown.

            Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!

            This is completely insane. This is the logic of an abusive husband, but directly applied to 10s of millions of people, applied by a man with hundreds to thousands of nuclear weapons.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/us-military-operates-e-6b-mercury-mission-to-maintain-nuclear-triad-communications-during-emergencies/ar-AA1XNCv9

            Flight trackers detected the Boeing E-6B Mercury, a U.S. aircraft used for nuclear command and control, flying over the Gulf of Mexico on March 9, 2026. The military uses the aircraft, often called a “doomsday plane,” as an airborne backup command center if ground systems fail. Observers often interpret its appearance on public flight trackers as a signal that the U.S. nuclear deterrent remains active.

            Its main purpose is to send secure messages to submarines carrying ballistic missiles. Communicating with submarines is difficult because they operate deep under the ocean, where normal radio signals cannot easily travel through seawater.

            … To overcome this challenge, the E-6B Mercury uses very low frequency radio signals that can reach submarines while they remain submerged. The aircraft deploys long trailing wire antennas during flight to transmit these signals. This system ensures submarines remain connected to command authorities and continue to serve as a highly survivable part of the nuclear deterrent.

            https://www.wionews.com/world/trump-deploys-doomsday-nuclear-command-planes-to-west-asia-amid-ww3-fears-1773071562944

            Flight-tracking data has captured multiple launches of the Navy’s E-6B Mercury strategic airborne command aircraft since the war in Iran began, the Daily Mail reported.

            Two E-6B Mercury flights were spotted over the US on March 2, one travelling from the Gulf Coast and landing at Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland, and the other taking off and later landing back at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, according to the Daily Mail.

            Since those flights, there have been reports from military news outlets of more E-6B launches heading across the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf.


            If we do not stop this demented idiot and his regime, we will responsible for destroying the world as we know it.

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          They’re not only squandering their position as a global leader and the good will of our allies, but the military might and defensive capabilities too.

          They’re literally going to make the continental US vulnerable to attack by wasting so many resources in this pointless war of aggression.

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            Being in Canada, I’m feeling so much relief now. My fear of dying soon isn’t entirely gone, but I’m feeling more hopeful.

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              It’s pretty sad that the world is at a point where Canadians can feel relieved that the US is bombing Iran because it takes the heat off themselves for a little while…

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            When the world police run out of resources, they’re unable to police the world anymore and others who have smartly withheld resources will move in on coveted targets.

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              its also giving china big looks at the US’s current weaknesses with their huge toys that cant account for millions of flying toy planes with grenades self guiding themselves into them. US was built on big power projection but it is expensive as shit and the rapist pissed off of their allies. China could do a lot of damage, whether that is enough to take taiwan 🤷‍♂️ but it would be expensive as hell and be a lot more things for new coral reefs to build from

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                Shock and awe is the terminology on how the USA military works. Dazzle them with military might in hopes they surrender early because long term we may not have the troops for it. Though I wouldn’t be surprised to see conscription in the USA from the concentration camps.

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          If Israel is around in 100 years I’ll eat my shorts. They’re speedrunning being turned into a crater

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            Israel’s nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.

            Basically, if they get nuked… they nuke Moscow, European capitals, anyone and everyone they can reach.

            So… yeah…

            Its literally ‘kill everyone’.

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              How the heck does the world “negate” or oppose Israel with the Samson Option running around?

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                Well, the difference being that the Iranian strategy is to attack things that can attack them, or people they care about.

                And obviously it is non nuclear.

                If Iran does have any ‘nuclear’ capacity, it would be dirty bombs, not… actual, proper, thermonuclear bombs/warheads.

                The Israel strategy is to intentionally take out friend, foe, in between, with full-on thermonuclear weapons, to simply maximize chaos and maximize the chance of basically secondary retaliatory nuclear strikes against as many other targets as possible.

                Goad the world into destroying itself, get other people to do most of the work for them.

                … See how that’s kind of a recurring pattern?


                If you are unfamiliar with the story of Samson from the Old Testament / Torah:

                Samson, a supernaturally strong warrior, is captured by the Philistines, his magic hair that gives him superhuman strength is shorn off, his eyes are put out.

                But, in his despair, he repents his sins, and God gives him his supernatural strength back.

                Samson, while being paraded and mocked in the Philistine royal court, finds the support beams to the whole building, and shakes them so hard that the entire building collapses, killing himself and everyone else in the Philistine royal court.

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                  It was peaceful for 800 years under Ottoman rule. Jews and arabs got along just fine under muslim rule. Saying its always been a mess is zionist propoganda.

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          Americans born in the 40s and 50s had such a gilded path set out before them by WW2, and now they think that young people can’t afford homes because of starbucks and avocado toast.

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          The British did ok after the second Boer War.

          The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

          The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.

          The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.

          Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.

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          Ww2 turned the US into the world’s premier power. In 1945 half the world’s GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold’s navies combined.

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            That all actually started after World War 1, to be honest.

            It was during the first world war that all of the European powers spent literally all their money fighting each other, with both sides then reaching out to the United States for loans to continue fighting each other, which America was of course happy to oblige.

            The repayment of those loans constituted the largest transfer of wealth in human history from Europe to the Americas, setting the stage for the American war machine to be completed prior to world war two.

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      Hard to imagine only half of the Arabian Peninsula or just a minor sliver of the Levant would be enough. “We’re here, why isn’t it ours” seems like the Israeli motto.

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      100% chance that if they did this, they’d find a reason to invade the squishy but obscenely rich Gulf to the east as well.

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          They’re salty about…

          …being let go by the pharaoh? After writing silly stories claiming credit for natural disasters ruining Egypt? Such salty crybabies.

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      Fucking psychos. Even at their peak, the biblical Israel was never that expansive. What farcical claim do they even attempt to make to this?

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        Their farcical claim has been pretty visible for a while now: they need not only the land they consider sacred and theirs but also a security buffer around it. If pressed, they will explain how a security buffer is not just an arbitrary distance of land but possession of key surrounding geographic positions. And that requires them to go all the way to THIS map.

        Their acquisition of the Golan Heights set the template for this. Israel used to enjoy saying that they never started any of the conflicts, but even then they would admit that they annexed the Golan proactively because of its strategic positioning and key water sources in the area.

        Clearly they won’t be talking about how they never started any of the conflicts anymore. They think they have more to gain than lose by letting that claim go.

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          Okay, well in that case all their neighbors need a security buffer too, which includes the key geographic position of their entire country.

          See how easy it is to make bullshit claims when you’re a fucking sociopathic narcissist who doesn’t understand or care that other people’s needs are just as valid as your own, and that you can’t just take things that aren’t yours just because you want it?

          Children understand this, but apparently the knesset doesn’t. It would be pathetic if it wasn’t so close to getting the entire world blown up…

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      The amount of cultural squashing that would need to happen to make this possible is just ridiculous lol.

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      While everyone is looking the other way, they move the borders. Once again. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Gotta do it while the guy whom they can blackmail with epstein videos is in power.

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    Classic Israeli tactic. Big mate allowed to feel like the tough guy, whilst the little shits do something sneaky and nasty whilst the world looks elsewhere.

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    Its actually hell how we allow this to happen how we allowed the formation of zionist state in the first place its disgusting

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    Watch the Lebanese army and goverment again do nothing while their citizens are massacred other than scold their opposition to stop resisting.