• how_we_burned@lemmy.zip
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        God loves genocidal maniacs

        To paraphrase…God has a hard-on for the US military because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls!

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          Almost certainly.

          The fresh souls of god fearing soldiers!

          But those scum over there who never had the chance to worship the correct god will go to hell

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      Yes he would. Hell is where the cool kids go. Are you asserting saddam is cool enough to hang out with genghis khan, liberace and Satan? I think not.

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      He could have prayed to Jesus right before dying, though! As long as he really means it

      Sorry, I don’t make the goofy ass heaven rules, take it up with the magic bird

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    The US supported Saddam Hussein and put him in power- until they got tired of him, then they waged a war and lied about WMD (remember “underground mobile bunkers anyone?) then they found him hiding in a hole in the ground and just killed him. The US is a terrorist state. Love to see the US trillion dollar debt payments go intergalactic in scale. Can’t wait to see it fail even more as a country.

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      Please be advised that the dollar failing is inevitable, and entire US financial system is based on DEBT with one inevitable conclusion. World financial system, really, with tentacles everywhere on Earth.

      The collapse is when they can purchase more land/assets at bottom dollar. Rinse and repeat since 1911

      Yours Truly,

      A conglomeration of international banking interests around since the 1800s (look at Deutsche Bank, for example, or JP Morgan)

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    IAEA made it quite clear that Iran was, in fact, producing highly enriched uranium. There’s no other use for that than to make nukes

    Ironically, IAEA reports also supported that Iraq was not doing so back in 2003.

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      They have the right to make nukes as much as anyone. Kinda surprised they didn’t just buy some from North Korea to prevent all this.

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        It would prevent nothing of this. You need to deliver the nuke to the destination and USA is on the other side of the globe.

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      Ironically, attacking someone “preemptively” because you think they’re about to develop nukes really just proves to those being attacked that they need nukes, because you won’t respect their sovereignty without MAD. I think it’s very clear to anyone with eyes and half a brain that the US+Israel wouldn’t have attacked Iran if it could result in Tel Aviv being glassed. Thus, the only logical conclusion from Irans side must be that they need to work even harder to develop nukes if they want the US+Israel to stop bombing them “preemptively” once a year or so.

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        ‘Their sovereignty’ in this case being a religious elite of around 5% that holds the rest of the people as their cattle.

        Sure from their pov they ‘need’ those nukes, but unless you’re on their side it’s a very good thing if they don’t get them

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          unless you’re on their side it’s a very good thing if they don’t get them.

          Of absolutely! I would much prefer that Iran (a fanatic, fundamentalist government) do not get their hands on nukes.

          I’m just pointing out the irony in that bombing them “preemptively” around once a year, and in general breaking all kinds of international law against them (assassinations etc.) is basically just yelling to them that “As long as you don’t have nukes, we can do whatever we want to you, and murder your people as we please. We’re also gonna keep doing exactly that, regularly, to stop you from getting nukes!”

          If that doesn’t convince someone to do everything in their power to build nukes, I don’t know what will.

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            Well they could, and I know this is a crazy idea but bear with me for just a moment, not try to make nuclear weapons

            “I need nuclear weapons to protect me from people attacking me because they want to prevent me from getting nuclear weapons” -> somewhere there’s a bit of circular logic in there

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              We can flip that argument though: “These people keep trying to make nukes to stop me from bombing them. Maybe if I stop bombing them and instead try to make something like the old Iran nuclear agreement, they won’t see a massive need for nukes”.

              The thing is, the US+Israel have shown time and again that they will conduct bombings and assassinations on Iranian (and other) soil regardless of whether the country in question is actually anywhere close to building nukes. So the idea “maybe we should stop trying to build nukes” just falls flat on its face once the US+Israel bombs you anyway, which is basically what’s happening here.

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                We can flip that argument

                I’m happy you’re seeing the light :)

                the US+Israel bombs you anyway

                Well, no.

                Can you give any examples of either Israel or the US bombing Iran or something like you describe that wasn’t linked to their nuclear program?

                For clarity: impotent calls to attack Iran have always been there: from inside the US (remember McCain singing), from Israel (well, Iran is sponsoring the ‘freedom fighters’ in direct conflict with Israel for decades) and even from Saudi Arabia (which was also confirmed in Cablegate).

                But can you give any examples of the US or even Israel directly attacking them since like the 80’s?

                Claims from Bibi with a cartoon that Iran is working on nukes: no attack Strong indications that they are, indeed, working to acquire nukes: Stuxnet, assassinations, negotiations Clear proof that they are ramping up production of highly enriched uranium: negatiotions Refusal to stop their production: attack + pickachu

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                  There are two primary points here:

                  A) Just the past couple of years there has been an assassination of a high-ranking officer in Iran, and iirc a bombing of their consulate in Beirut. None of these are related to the nuclear program, they weren’t even claimed to be related to the nuclear program. I also mentioned other countries: the whole “Iraq has WMD’s”-thing comes to mind.

                  B) Regardless of the above, both the US and Israel have signed the UN charter, explicitly stating that the will not attack other countries just to get their way. Doing that puts them on the same level as russia when it comes to respecting international law. Saying “you should have done as I said and you wouldn’t have gotten beat up” doesn’t justify beating someone up.

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    Hey now, we still might bomb Iraq too. At least one of the regime mouthpieces fudged and said Iraq instead of Iran already, so to prevent that from looking stupid, we will also bomb Iraq.

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    If an advanced civilization in the future figures out a way to scan the minds of all sentient beings and put them in an afterlife simulation, then it’ll probably work like The Good Place after they fixed the issues with the system, and this guy would absolutely still be stuck in the purgatories, not yet a better person.