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    The bottom half is a cropped section of the top, which unfortunately detracts from the very real tragedy of the far too many people pictured.

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    Americans are such a passive people. Their state can commit the worst atrocities, no peep from them. If this was any EU country, heads would be flying.

    EDIT: After writing this, I thought and I disagree with my own statement. People suck. All people, generally. Some are a bit more passive than others, but generally, humanity sucks, people suck. We value comfort way too much and are not up to give up 0.1% of it, even in the face of atrocities. Principled people are very rare.

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      Upvotes never were supposed to be „likes“. They are supposed to be „this is a valuable contribution and should be seen by more people“

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    Now make a list of those slaughtered, murdered, raped, molested, disfiguered, invalidated, by the regime… Ibwont hold my breath.

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    So much innocence is lost unnecessarily, first the brutal crackdown mowing down Iranians during the January Riots and now this.

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      in your funeral, instead of your loved ones reading your eulogy, they should bring up that other people died too and focus on them instead.

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        If I was suporting one imperialist invasion and prettending the other one is not there that would be fair. OP spent last few years denying whats going on in Ukraine.

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        Im comfortable in my warm bed. A neighbouring country is being bombed by an empire the OP is shilling for and deing war crimes commited. Your moral high ground has been noted tho.

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          I am afraid you have committed two logical fallacies. A whataboutism and an ad hominem. I am therefore declaring myself victorious in this debate and taking the last word.

          I leave you with this final thought: Have you considered that two things might be bad at once? Think about it.

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        Would you support a “ceasefire” in Gaza where Israel gets all it wants and can change conditions of anytime they want?

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            My goverment? Not sure it has any meaningful inpact on actual european politics, but being the neocons they are I tend to be against most anything they stand for or do. Which gives me about as much agency as Russian communists have in their state. Your point being?

            I do know the Russian demands more or less, and they call for dismounting most meaningfull lines of defence by giving away key stronghold cities. Sounds very much like a suicide when dealing with a state that every time lies about their intentions. Also loved the peace offer with Russian right to veto any actions in defence of Ukrainian territory. In regards of prep for whats comming dont worry. Russia can not defeat the most corrupt, weakest of the big states in Europe. Also they used to have much more sympathy in Ukraine then they do here. Most of their support base is far right and these will be dealt with when the time comes.

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      Are you asking about the Ukranians civilians killed by Russia or something else?

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        Ukrainian, or really all, civilians killed in the conflict instigated by Russia.

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            Oh, you got any arguments not used by USA to justify Iran, Irak, Venezuela and soon Kuba invasions? Im really fascinated by how you belive this is any different.

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              Lol covering your ass ahead of time because you presumably know about the 8 years of ethnic cleansing by us-backed nazis, but think that you can both-sides it if you pretend that documented reality is the same thing as whole cloth propaganda. Truth is the difference. The US lies about bad things happening to justify aggression against a rival, and the US also does bad things and lies about them not happening to justify aggression against a rival. The common denominator here is American imperial lies, and the fools who keep swallowing them.

              Here’s a CNN segment from 2015, before mentioning the slaughter of eastern ukranians by their own junta government became politically inconvenient for the west:

              https://youtu.be/sK_5KthQTHk

              A choice quote since I know your ass isn’t going to watch it:

              We are Ukranian, but they kill us. So we probably need our own country. Because these people in Kiev, they are not brothers to us.