Palden Yeshi, a Tibetan monk and teacher from eastern Tibet, has reportedly been sentenced to six years in prison by Chinese authorities for teaching the Tibetan language to local children during school holidays, according to a report by the Dharamshala-based independent radio station Voice of Tibet (VoT).
He was a teacher at Karze Monastery in Tehor, Karze County, and was arrested on May 17, 2021, while serving at the monastery. According to sources cited by VoT, Chinese police suddenly arrived at the monastery and detained him without prior notice, forcibly taking him away.
Following his detention, authorities did not provide his family with clear information regarding the reasons for his arrest or the legal basis for the charges against him.
Sources indicate that the primary reason for his detention was his efforts to teach the Tibetan language to more than 300 local children during school holidays. The classes were reportedly organized for young students from nearby communities who wished to learn Tibetan reading and writing. Chinese authorities are believed to have deemed these voluntary language lessons illegal.
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In related news, China bars Tibetan government employees from religious rites and family funerals.
Tibetans employed in government positions have been strictly forbidden from engaging in religious practices. While they are technically allowed to visit major religious sites such as the Jokhang Temple (Tsuglakhang) and the Potala Palace during Losar, their presence is limited to sightseeing purposes only.
They are expressly prohibited from offering prayers, making ritual offerings, performing prostrations, or displaying any other forms of religious devotion. Authorities reportedly warned that such acts would constitute violations of Communist Party discipline.
The restrictions extend into private family life. Government employees are said to be barred not only from participating in public religious ceremonies but also from attending last rites, weekly memorial prayer services, and cremation rituals for their own deceased relatives. A Lhasa resident told TT that even the traditional seventh-day prayers for the departed cannot be attended by those in state employment.
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Destruction of culture.
AKA cultural genocide.
That’s what it is. It is the purposeful drive to homogenize Chinese empire under Han culture and language and erase the existence of other races their culture identity and history.
theocrat slaver culture*
Tankies will look you dead in the eyes and tell you this isn’t colonialism.
Today they kill Tibetan Language, tomorrow they’ll kill Cantonese Language (I mean they are already trying to kill it right now), My Native Language
Have you met anyone from China who doesn’t speak their native language in addition to mando?
The Chinese I asked about it seemed more concerned they could hardly understand the accent in other areas, which IDK whether to interpret as they didn’t care an integral part of their cultures was eroding or they were saying these people barely speak mandarin, obv they aren’t losing their native language.
Hello. I’m noticing at least 3 people don’t like your opinion. Does that mean your written and spoken words are irrelevant and it’s alright to erase them?
Some people like jerking off to the idea that China is full of mustache-twirling villains who do endless evil for absolutely no reason. Look at OP’s post history for example, averaging >10 anti-china posts per day for over a year. If you don’t want anyone’s logic or experience having lived in China to potentially get in the way of that, you’re best off blocking me.
China’s nationalistic tendencies and unification policies are its official stance. Its own government has admitted that some officials are overzealous in their pursuit for Han culture dominance. And they do little, if anything at all to curb these abuses, officially.
Ignorance is not logic. It’s bias.
China’s nationalistic tendencies and unification policies are its official stance. Its own government has admitted that some officials are overzealous in their pursuit for Han culture dominance
True, and I’ve noticed some underlying views in my conversations with Chinese people, but I’m still 99% sure this is made up given the source.
And they do little, if anything at all to curb these abuses, officially.
They have officially put minority rights into their constitution and leave Tibet significant autonomy. I’ve never been to Tibet so I can’t speak towards the specifics of how it’s implemented, but I doubt anyone here can either.
Ignorance is not logic. It’s bias.
The comment I’m getting downvoted for is asking the only other person in this thread with direct experience to share their relevant experience. Who exactly are you calling ignorant, the person who has lived in China or the people whom uncritically accept hostile evidence?
I’m calling ignorant those who ignore or downplay the harm caused due to whatever reasons, regardless of affiliation. Doesn’t matter who, doesn’t matter why, those who suffer unjustly deserve their recognition.
Is it downplaying or ignoring harm to ask the other person who has experience “Hey does this match what you’ve observed? Can you help me contextualize my observations?”
Cantonese is more
expressiveeconomic than Mandarin.In Mandarin, the ‘Shīshì shí shī shǐ’ poem is incomprehensible when read aloud, since only four syllables cover all the words of the poem. The poem is somewhat more comprehensible when read in other varieties such as Cantonese, in which it has 18 different syllables accounting for tone differences, or Hokkien, in which it has 15 different syllables.
So Mandarin is the worst branch of the Chinese languages to simp for.
I don’t think having more distinct sounds makes a language more expressive.
Mandarin has to use two syllabel words.
Cantonese often times can use one syllabel words due to it having more unique combination of initials+finals + more tones
Example:
Chair: 櫈 vs 椅子
Clothes: 衫 vs 衣服
Shoes: 鞋 vs 鞋子
Table: 枱 vs 桌子
Ruler: 尺 vs 尺子Any linguist would dismiss this. The same argument could be made for say Catalan vs Castilian, or French vs Italian, but fewer syllables don’t equate to more expressiveness.
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Perhaps ‘economic’ is the correct word. More expressive per unit of speech.
Toki pona is interesting conceptually, but in practice I wouldn’t want to have to resort to eight-word compounds all the time.
Toki Pona is an exception. It’s an engineered language designed for ease of learning at the expense of expressiveness. It’s intended as a bridge language for basic communication when no one knows each others’ languages.
This is silly. Tibetan language remains a core subject in Tibet’s schools, with bilingual education policy in place since the founding of modern schooling in the region. The Tibet Autonomous Region government confirms that over 400 types of Tibetan-Chinese bilingual textbooks have been compiled, and terminology databases covering 12 academic disciplines support Tibetan instruction across subjects. Public signage, government documents, and media in Tibet routinely use both languages. Tibetan is also widely spoken throught the region.
Mandarin is promoted as the national common language because it gives Tibetan speakers practical access to higher education, civil service exams, legal aid, healthcare systems, and economic opportunities beyond local borders. China’s Constitution and the National Common Language Law explicitly protect the right of all ethnic groups to use and develop their own languages while establishing Mandarin as the common language for national communication. In schools across Tibet, both Tibetan and Mandarin courses are offered, and students who wish to pursue Tibetan-language university programs can still take Tibetan language exams organized by the region.
China’s Constitution
China’s Constitution also said free speech but why do you need a VPN to access most western sites? Meanwhile I can browse Baidu BaiKe (Baidu’s Wikipedia) and Tencent News from the US without needing a VPN?
(And yes I do realize the US’s government is also corrupt, but at least we don’t have that firewall thing… (for now at least))
Since you are so Pro-CCP, why do you violate their policies/laws and bypass the firewall? What’s your opinion on the PRC’s firewall and censorship?
🤔
You ignored every single point about Tibetan language policy because you couldn’t actually refute them. Tibetan is taught as a core subject in Tibet’s schools. Bilingual textbooks are used in classrooms. Street signs, government documents, and local media in Tibet appear in both Tibetan and Mandarin. Tibetan is spoken widely across the region in daily life, in markets, homes, and monasteries. These are not policy claims. These are observable facts.
Again mandarin is promoted because it is the common language that connects people across China. Knowing Mandarin lets Tibetan speakers apply to universities nationwide, take civil service exams, access legal aid, and find work beyond their local area. That is a practical benefit. Schools in Tibet teach both languages. Students can still take Tibetan-language exams for university admission. Promoting a common language does not erase a mother tongue.
On the firewall. It was originally created to foster and protect China’s fledgling digital infrastructure and data sovereignty. That was a legitimate policy choice. Many countries regulate foreign platforms and data flows. China built its own ecosystem instead of depending on foreign companies. We have seen what happens when foreign platforms operate without local oversight: Facebook facilitating genocide in Myanmar, coordinated anti-vax disinformation campaigns in Southeast Asia, algorithm-driven radicalization. The firewall makes those kinds of external influence operations harder to run at scale.
VPNs for personal use are not illegal. The regulations target unauthorized commercial VPN services.
Also it is CPC, not CCP.
I support the firewall even though it can be inconvenient (so long as vpns remain accessible and legal). I have seen the alternatives. The trade off makes sense to me.
But none of this changes the core point you dodged. Tibetan language education continues. Mandarin promotion expands opportunity. Both can be true at the same time. That is the reality.
Tankies won’t like this
A lot of people don’t like fake news.
But this is par for the course from Hotznplotzn and his
sockpuppetsfriends.You’re right, I don’t like obvious propaganda that has nothing to back it up beyond, “sources believe.”
i’d be pretty stoked to see tibetan theocrats rekt.
That would be a pretty shocking deviation from the current policy where over 90% of students in Tibet receive a bilingual education in primary and middle school.
thanks china, for freeing tibet
independent radio station
Voice of Tibet
It receives funds from the United States National Endowment for Democracy
Yeah no, they’re just making shit up lmao.
🤣🤣👌👍
Literally the only source for this is from known CIA fronts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Tibet_(Norway)?wprov=sfla1
It’s sad that the government is trying to destroy the aspects of Tibet that make it unique.
ITT
“It’s a lie!” “It’s the truth!” “Nuh-uh!” “Uh-huh!”
It’s almost as if obfuscation of the truth were the goal. I wonder who that benefits…
If benefits the capitalist class, lately also known as the Epstein class.
But muh Media Bias/Fact Check says it checks out!
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/contact/
Dave M. Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry. Dave has spent more than 20 years as an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence.
Van Zandt is some hobbyist who was in the right place at the right time: the “post-truth” moment of Clinton’s loss to Trump and the string of Russiagate conspiracy theories and Kellyanne Conway’s alternative facts and the Cambridge Analytica hysteria.
The whole concept of the “left” or ”right“ “bias” being inversely correlated with factualness is garbage. These kinds of graphs, which try to convince us that centrism equals factualness, are garbage:
The core bias of corporate media is the bias of the capitalist class, but people like Van Zandt don’t seem to understand this.
The inner workings of corporate media were explained about forty years ago in Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent.
A five minute introduction: Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
I said “these kinds of graphs,” of which there are many https://duckduckgo.com/?q=media+bias+chart&iax=images&ia=images
But you’ve sparked an idea for an interesting project: use MBFC’s API to create one of these graphs from their own data. Doing a little googling, it seems that scripts and data dumps aren’t hard to come by.
I think armchair media analyst Dave M. Van Zandt is going on vibes. I don’t think he understands corporate & think tank media. Does he know who Walter Lippman or Edward Bernays were, or what the Council on Foreign Relations (“least biased” 🤡) is or made note of its prominent media members? Does he know about the Powell memorandum or the Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy?
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site:mediabiasfactcheck.com "manufacturing consent".I’ve seen The Grayzone debunk the New York Times’ lies many times, and yet:
Also, in what universe is the neoliberal, anti-labor NYT center-left? And if the Grayzone in the ultraviolet territory, where does that leave the explicitly Communist Monthly Review, outside of MBFC’s Overton window? Surprise, it’s to the right of it:
The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.
The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.
This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.
The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”
None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.
Legendary comment. Do you have a blog or anything?
Thanks! No blog; just a small collection of zingers after ~3 years of Lemmy conversations.
If you ever want to, I’m sure others would find it useful. Of course, you don’t owe anyone your time/effiort.
I know a few people here who’ve already done a better job than I probably could.
Thank you o7
The deeper I get into the CFR the worse things look.
Have you noticed the connection between the Council on Foreign Relations and the Heritage Foundation? I’ve seen they seem to share membership rolls. The membership list is open on both web sites.
That’s weird!
They don’t even bother hiding it any more, there’s no need. They can operate right out in the open, and no one will report on their obvious connection and financiers.
I’ve found that it’s difficult to even discuss in public, as it’s dismissed as “conspiracy theories”. Even though the data is from the actual sources themselves and not reported.
It seems that if it’s not “reported” by the very tools of the beast, the population has been trained to dismiss it.
great post, friend
no one will report on their obvious connection and financiers
The media sure won’t mention it, because those same financiers own the media. It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.
If you’re ever bored, check out JP Morgan (the man) from 1800s and follow it up through today (the super bank), you can watch the web expand through the years, inexorably
Sources indicate that the primary reason for his detention was his efforts to teach the Tibetan language to more than 300 local children during school holidays. The classes were reportedly organized for young students from nearby communities who wished to learn Tibetan reading and writing. Chinese authorities are believed to have deemed these voluntary language lessons illegal.
Lmao y’all are incapable of critical thought.
My sources indicate that gullible is written on the ceiling.
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Go die on the front lines for your leader
I would, but China isn’t fighting any wars right now, and hasn’t ever been in my lifetime.
I tap three green mana and summon a 1/5 Tankie. Cannot be the subject of reason or debate.
