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    I can’t wait to spend weeks trying to get my 10yr old scanner, my 4 yr old stream deck, my specialized proprietary keyboard mapping software, my almost unheard of cad software to work. Don’t get me started on doing it on my laptop.

    Don’t get me wrong. Windows is going nowhere, and Im sure I’ll throw in the towel eventually. I know it’s gotten a little better than when I last tried it a few years ago, but I know its going to be painful, involve compromises, and probably some cash on forced hardware changes. People pretending like the switch is easy for power users with specialized hardware are full of lies.

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      By the way Microsoft was going the last 10 years you’ll have exactly your first paragraphs work on windows too, anyhow.

      I am still running windows on a gaming only device but I am regularly amazed at the amount of effort that goes into breaking things.

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      For me, it wasn’t a promise that Linux would be annoyance free. It was the simple fact that Windows had been escalating its annoyances and built-in ads to catch up.

      Linux had some new annoyances, but I realized over time I just didn’t need to deal with the old ones. Keyboard shortcuts locked to the OS defaults was one; there were a lot of window management shortcuts I wanted to change or disable, and Windows simply doesn’t let you.

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      Hardware rarely seems to be the issue with major distros. I have had zero trouble with hardware for years now with a big distro like Ubuntu. Some of the smaller or lightweight distros? Absolutely, a mixed bag of hammers not knowing what will work. Usually wireless internet, but sometimes it’s something weird like an NVMe not working or some USB driver.

      Software OTOH is a really big problem. Software controlling hardware, for instance gaming gear like a joystick/throttle setup, RGB gear or pwm pumps for cooling, is nowhere near as comprehensive or user friendly, if it exists at all; and of course plenty of games and other windows/mac only software doesn’t exist for Linux or might work in something clunky like Wine.

      Linux can’t do it all, but devs have little incentive to make things linux compatible. Why deal with the headache of trying to get their software to work on a bunch of different distros when Windoze and Mac are still working fine.

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        I’m 100% sure it won’t be easy, but I’ve had a tab open for like 4months with instructions on setting up a dual boot environment. If I live image I’ll get frustrated and quit. This way I can work on it a bit at a time.

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          A live image is an ISO that you can boot directly to without installing on to your computer. You can place the ISO on a USB stick with Ventoy, and then during post you chose to boot from the USB instead of your installed drive.

          Most Linux ISOs are live images.

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            Yes I know. I envision myself in a mercurial state Yanking the usb out as soon as I have driver issues. Making a partition for an install will take more work to undo, nudging me to commit to the change that I think will ultimately be beneficial.

            If this sounds crazy, this is the kind of tortured process I go through on a daily basis to try to outsmart and tame my future self.

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      If it’s any consolation, my printer’s about as old and Linux Mint seemed to just recognise it the moment I turned the printer off and on again. Might be one thing to cross off the list quickly!!

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      Dude… the Steam Deck run on SteamOS which IS Linux.

      Anyway all it takes is to put a bootable usb in your pc, and check all the hardware before installing anything.

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      The steam deck is already a linux device so I’m not sure why you’re worried about it working with linux

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    I use Windows 10, MacOS, and Linux. Use the right tool for the job is whatI always say. Linux is the right tool most of the time, just not all of the time.

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      I finally broke off my dependency from Windows last year. Still have the Mac for music, but not having to deal with a single Windows update or bug for six months has been such an improvement.

      I’ve always said that with Linux, it’s a buggy, under-development experience, but the mistakes are honest. When one of the biggest companies in the world can’t stop from putting out one broken update after another, all for the sake of short-term profit, I had to just call it quits completely.

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        Yeah, I can handle incompetence. It’s the malicious exploitation that was getting to me. I don’t feel that any more with Linux. Give it time, I guess.

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      Same. And in most use case scenarios MacOS is practically Linux, but with commercial app support. And on AppleSilicon with insane performance/battery life.

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        Yeah, I use my M3 Mac only for music production and when traveling. Music software/hardware support on Mac is a given, and the battery life is just insane.

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        There’s also a Linux distro for Apple silicon, m1-m3 chips for now.

        Didn’t test it myself yet but is on the to do list.

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          Yes, Asahi Linux. I haven’t tried it either, but I saw a fresh video about it a week ago and it seems it’s approaching usable state. For now, some apps crash, GPU stuff has artifacts.

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            Adobe Suite gotta run on Linux, that’s the day I’ll ditch every proprietary os.

            Or if I don’t ever need it again :)

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    I just have to do it. Im daunted by it because I literally have a barely functional grasp on software, but I know that Linux is the only real option at this point.

    When the convenience of doing nothing no longer outweighs my apprehension I’ll switch

    Edit: how nice you guys are about this isnt helping me be lazy god damnit

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      I got Linux Mint on my laptop a few months back. Was pretty damn simple to get set up.

      Feels like Windows with a few minor inconveniences like having to learn to use pinta after using paint for like 39 years

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        Linux mint is always my rec for beginners. It is super simple to set up and feels familiar to them

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      Anything KDE plasma will feel familiar but kinda sci-fi fancy. Or at least it was doe me.

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      Zorin OS is geared towards people coming frim Windows or Mac wanting to maintain UI similarity. They have a “paid” version where you just pay for tech support help installing + more desktop layouts, but the free version Zorin OS core is most popular and I’m sure the community here would be happy to help walk you through it.

      If you have nvidia graphics card they have support for that during installation.

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      Gotta take it in stages my dude and it won’t even feel daunting once you finally do it. I procrastinated for months too lol.

      Stage 1: Note down the software you need to bring with you Stage 2: Do the distro decidin’ (watch some videos, read some nerd posts, whatever) Stage 3: Check hardware support, starting with your most expensive components. Stage 4: Figure out where to look for help before you’re stuck. The hardest part is that most guides start from step 1 and you probably need step 0 so don’t be scared to ask an AI for help, they’re great for stuff like this. Stage 5: Backups! Stage 6: Set aside a whole day and do the dang thing!

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    I’m pretty close to making the switch. I just have a little more experimenting to do on a spare laptop before I swap my main PC over.

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    I’ll switch once there is support for league on Linux, untill then I’ll stay with windows 10. I feel like it’s only a matter of time untill valve or someone else comes up with a solution for whatever type of anti cheat riot and other companies use .

    I am using Linux on my old laptop, and waiting for stream os to support more hardware before swapping my media PC to it

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          IIRC I partitioned the drive, and made a bootable flashdrive to install Windows to the new partition.

          The amount of space I gave has worked for the last couple years, but now I’m getting down to the last few GBs and might have to remake it.

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      Try a Debian based distro. So Debian, mint, Ubuntu, kubuntu.

      Ubuntu comes with gnome, looks and feels Mac os ish Kubuntu comes with KDE and looks like windows. Mint is kinda like kubuntu Debian comes with what ever DE you’ll install.

      Debian (based) distros are usually the most stable ones with good (Driver) support all around. I’ve had to come across a device which had any issue after an install with those distros. All of them will game, if that’s something you worry about.

      You could also try Fedora with KDE or Gnome.

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          Yeah, probably. You could just boot from a USB stick with f.e. Ubuntu on it and see what works.

          Dunno if testing reason 10 is possible on a stick but you could at least check the HW.

          I’ve got an 8bit duo controller and it works flawless.

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    most of my friends are on 10 and lost at what to do. i’m sure they’ll just go 11 because anything else is scary. I sometimes offer to help but most don’t take me up on it.