Just to clarify, I don’t think it’s a problem that hatred is minimal here, and I don’t just mean politics.
I feel like I very rarely see alternative opinions about anything, whether it be software, ai, news about companies, etc. it just seems like everyone universally agrees about anything with only a tiny handful of exceptions.
It makes me hesitant to believe I’m on the “correct side” and I never see any arguments from opposition. This makes me worried that I’m in some sort of echo chamber. In real life, I do see much more diverse opinions and, if I only used the fediverse for social media, would likely be weaker in defending my own since their arguments would be “new” to me.
I understand the reasons for which the fediverse has pretty collective opinion, but it does still worry me. I want to be able to see all the other people with their own thoughts (given it’s respectful) on the Internet, which should be the most capable tool to do so.
Great point, I agree with you!
Yeah it absolutely would benefit from a wider range of opinions. That’s why a large portion of my comments are “against the grain”, I don’t see the value of reinforcing prevailing opinions in an echo chamber. I hope that as Lemmy grows we will see more diverse opinions, but what I think is more likely is that the hard-core leftist part of Lemmy will sort of secede and defederate so they can preserve their echo chamber while the rest of lemmy gets taken over by “normies”
Don’t bother, humans don’t deserve any intervention.
You reap what you sew.
Username checks out.
This has uh, not been my experience.
I live in south currently and it feels like IRL is the echo chamber.
I genuinely did not know there are americans actually opposed to Israel until I came to lemmy. And I especially did not know it was a big group.
One reason you’re noticing a homogeneity of opinions on here is the fact that Lemmy isn’t botted like larger social networks. Larger networks have bots farms pushing all sorts of narratives for various reasons, and the one thing they accel at is finding people to argue with.
You are also certainly in a bubble on Lemmy. You have to know it exists and care enough to use it over other platforms. Most people choose the path of least resistance.
its botted plenty. i was just in a china circkejerk thread where there was immediate defense of china and massive attavk of anything that didnt promote china
The China vs US one ?
Brigades are out in full force in those trenches
No. I’m perfectly secure in my absolute hatred and rejection of bigotry and violence.
But, to be fair and balanced, have you considered the many pros of bigotry?
It’s important for the discourse that you respect my position, no matter how dogshit it is or how poorly I defend it.
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Yes, these are very valid concerns. Maybe start first with some controversial opinion?
Prolly not a good idea. I’ve heard mods here are supposed to be as badly power tripping as on Reddit.
This isn’t a fucking poll. It’s a website with a bunch of jackasses on it. You want better sampling start poking for your opinions instead of shitting them out on whatever social media site.
Actually, I sometimes get lots of downvotes in things I think I see pretty clearly. So I understand what you mean but still I see some controversy.
I get argued with on here fairly often. The fact that the people arguing with me are usually morons reinforces my belief that I’m on the right side of things.
Express yourself. Fuck everyone else’s opinions and correctness, value yours until it’s defeated. It’s not rare that what is generally perceived as correct, is still wrong. Turn off the voting system and express yourself without worrying about numbers, focus in the arguments.
I believe that AI including chatgpt and genAI are a good thing and they bring us one step closer to where humanity should be going.
I also think that feminism was instigated by the CIA, that Israel is losing the Iran war on purpose, and what else can i tell you? Lots of diverging opinions.
I just rarely bother to formulate them because all it will cause is lots of people categorically saying “no you’re wrong” and i don’t really get anything from that.
I believe that AI including chatgpt and genAI are a good thing and they bring us one step closer to where humanity should be going.
I think you’re wrong but that’s a discussion we could have
I also think that feminism was instigated by the CIA
LMAOOO Idk if this is some elaborate bit that I’m falling for, but Why would the CIA make up feminism when women gave so many reasons to be upset about things?
Hell, the concept of feminism predates the CIA by decades
Why would the CIA make up feminism
women working jobs means companies have a higher supply of labor force that they also pay lower wages too.
So that is a real aspect of women’s relationship to wage labor under capitalism, but like… That’s not the fault of the CIA, or even feminism.
Feminists famously want women to be paid equally for their work. Alexandra Kollintai was a Marxist feminist living in Russia around the time of the Revolution, and regularly talked about the importance of equal pay for women.
Women in the United States were always a part of the workforce, but it was largely working class women, in textile mills and such, who were working.
World War 2 required many women, across class divisions, to enter the workforce, even into more traditionally masculine fields. The the post war 50s, with its emphasis on rigid, traditional gender roles, forced women back into the home, which produced a lot of resentment among many women. Their access to work, financial independence, and a greater sense of social purposes was suddenly stripped away.
This is the context that 2nd wave feminism, with its focus on women’s ability to work outside the home and financial independence, comes out of.
Issues like women being paid unequally for the same work are systemic, and often done unconsciously. That doesn’t make them less of an injustice, but it does mean that the source of the problem is often more people than blaming a specific group, like the CIA, for it.
Yep, it’s pretty cringe.
That’s why I’m still on Reddit half the time. Too many people here are vicious and condescending on every topic. At least it’s funny on Reddit but over here it’s usually annoying.
With the caveat that I’ve blocked all news and politics communities… not saying you’re wrong, but can you give a practical example of the kind of opinion you’d like to see voiced here?
To me the Lemmy userbase seems rightfully distrustful of corporate curated talking points and it’s easy enough to see those by going to any social media platform. I don’t know who you’re talking to in real life, but after meeting hundreds of AI tech bros (and many others too polite to vocally disagree with them) that seems like a breath of fresh air.
I could do without the endless barrage of guillotine references though. Anyone who thinks of the French Revolution as the ideal model for societal reform would be wise to take a moment to read up on it.
