I wish all deceased United States and Israeli combatants in the invasion of Iran a very RIP bozo.
Americans are very much not for the invasion, and outright protesting it.
We’re not talking about americans in general, we’re talking about people who knowingly signed up to murder children for oil.
That’s different, napalm for them.
Show me American soldiers protesting the invasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVInoV0l6JU
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ubP6yyf3A0o
https://youtu.be/yssr3H4OYmc?t=1726
Just the stuff you can find, that has certain implications. Good luck getting anything thanks to this propaganda war.
There was also some warships toilets getting sabotaged and clogged iirc.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/07/us-veterans-iran-war-reaction
They’re effectively slaves to the state in many ways meaning if they did theyre is a good chance of going to prison. Which if they have a family is a big ask for a lot of them, especially since the bulk of the military is made up of non-combat roles.
“I will rather bomb a school full of girls, than refuse orders”
Very morally correct stance /s
Your thinking is a big part of what’s wrong with Americunts.
“Show me something I won’t even look at anyway, smart guy.”
She clearly was, otherwise she wouldn’t be wearing the uniform. Imagine dying for pedophiles smh.
People always act like being in the military just absolves them of all their personal moral obligations. It is the morally correct thing to refuse these orders even if it means going to prison. Yes believe it or not, you going to prison is better than you killing innocent people.
No guarantee she would actually have went with the attack on Iran. Did you see the soldier ruining USA’s opsec by filming lazily his own radar system being blown up?
It doesnt matter how you are involved with the war, if you help run a base, operate a drone or whatever else. You are still assisting war crimes.
You can’t view everything so black and white. These are normal people who signed up to do something they thought was right, only to be pushed into an unexpected war, their lives and livelihoods, their honor, their people at stake. But when push comes to shove, many of them just won’t co-operate in the war, and those people aren’t typically televised.
Many of us willingly or unwillingly participate in questionable systems, burning fossil fuels as a side-effect. This does not mean we want to, self-preservation is a thing. But for example: even though I depend on many of the goods going through the suez cannal, I root for it’s closure, for the destruction of fossil fuels. I have a portable solar panel, and I want to transition to 100% energy independence and my own grown food.
Look at the army for freedom of Russia that is fighting it’s own country. Quite a few defectors helping Ukraine.
You only make things worse by rejecting these people as scum, by not leaving any room for their humanity. You kill who you must to protect yourself, you try to get them to defect to your side, and you can’t do that by damning them right away.
These people were just like you, believing they would rise up against their tyrannical government, and lay down their lives for the greater good, but it is not so simple or easy.
Fucking clean wehrmacht myth but for yank troops lol
But when push comes to shove, many of them just won’t co-operate in the war
Uh, source? Or even convincing anecdotal evidence?
Severe amounts of moronic in this post if you’re being genuine.
Maybe people being killed is bad no matter who they are and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and all that
Fuck around and find out and what not.
I’d rather woodchipper the Epstein people, or worse.
No, some people dying is definitely worse, moron :)
Same with the military, who literally told Donald not to do this.
Idk, i don’t really feel bad for terrorists
Its actually such a disaster that the only way to appeal to the average US citizen is to make them worry about their own people. Brown people in the middle east just dont have worth i guess?
And gas prices. Blowing up brown people is a bonus
the average US citizen might probably know about the 11 dead Americans but cant even guess the number of 2200 humans who were shelled and ripped apart by bombs in Lebanon and Iran who are most majority civilians.
So this was not a soldier who defended their homeland. It was 1 vile mass murderer who travelled 5000 miles and comitted a terrorist attack killing 100 people in poor 3rd world countries for money.
I think they were referring to the US soldiers
Most of the time, terrorists exist because the Epstein class bombed their family members.
Edit: Which is not relevant here because I misunderstood that OP was saying that the American military are terrorists.
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You talking about Israel or?
Israel’s Accomplice
Welp, seems Nicole won’t be showing up on Lemmy anymore.
Wait, you know Nicole?
The fediverse chick.
/s
Nope, just the account that posted her that I told to go kill themselves.
Nope but she did chose to live and die to enforce imperialism so hard to feel bad for her.
I mean, it’s double edged.
You’ve got folks in desperate poverty for whom enlistment is designed as a release valve.
But then you’re being paid to crush people more desperate than you.
So do you want to be the half of lumpen labor paid to do the killing or the half that’s being killed? I don’t like the people doing the killing, but I can’t blame from for not wanting to be on the other side of the barrel. There’s no good choice to be made when you’re in the bottom rung of the social order.
At the end of the day, what we really need is a mid level officer’s revolt. Where is the American Chavez? Where is the American Gaddafi?
No excuses if i rob and kill my elderly neighbor to steal their stuff to help pay rent that explains but no way excuses my actions.
if i rob and kill my elderly neighbor to steal their stuff to help pay rent
It’s rob the neighbor or be the neighbor that gets robbed.
This isn’t a real choice from a material sense. It’s selection bias. You’re mad at a random sampling of people forced into a Sofie’s Choice, rather than the fascists forcing this choice on them.
Gaddafi and Chavez? Both of those governments had a shitload of military people staffing leadership roles that should’ve been civilian gigs. No thanks.
Disobeying authoritarian orders is one thing. Using that as a tool to centralize power and staff civi roles with military brass for decades? Hard pass.
Why did she? Seems like a case of FAFO.
Seems like a case of bait-and-switch.
She was a reservist, meaning she was told she’d be training on weekends and working her regular job during the week. It should be illegal to send reservists to these wars of choice, but Dubya changed that during the War on Terror because no one wanted to go to Iraq and Afghanistan to die.
And I’m not comfortable blaming the soldiers just yet, when all the evidence we have is that the military and joint chiefs (sans Keg-Breath) told Donald not to do this and he told them to fuck themselves and did it anyway.
In this day and age, if you sign up for the military you know there is a high chance you will be sent to a foreign country that did nothing to us to kill brown children to distract from the fact that our leaders are raping other children.
Or you would know it if the USA wasn’t the most propagandized place on the face of the earth.
you know there is a high chance you will be sent to a foreign country
Being sent to staff a base and being sent to a war are two totally different things. (At least until February 2026)
Or you would know it if the USA wasn’t the most propagandized place on the face of the earth.
The military itself opposed this, and that’s in the public record. This president has a record of avoiding wars and disentangling the US from them, especially in Syria and Afghanistan. (Which, ironically, Dems opposed even though these wars had lasted decades.)
Iran and Venezuala are, rightly, unexpected, and if you’re blaming reservists for their deaths then you’re the one who’s propagandized in this case. Can’t exactly blame someone for dying in a war when all of the information they have is that it’s (relatively) safe to be a US soldier and they can’t read a demented person’s mind.
Yeah I’m not excusing a hired killer because they thought it was a low chance anyone would ever successfully shoot back.
Can’t exactly blame someone for dying in a war when all of the information they have is that it’s (relatively) safe to be a US soldier and they can’t read a demented person’s mind.
No, but you can blame them having a complete lack of moral character and for being completely, and willfully, ignorant of what their job entails.
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Did you know that recruiters LIE?
Imagine being broke and struggling through college. You get an email from a recruiter - they have access to the university’s entire mailing of course - telling you that all you have to do is show up to a few weeks of boot camp, and do drill on the weekend.
You’re 18, and don’t know that recruiters are not just allowed to sell you up the river, but encouraged to. It seems like a nice alternative to student loan hell debt and living off jars of peanut butter.
I do ASVAB prep occasionally, which I have mixed feelings about, and have a client who I’ve just gotten to being able to borrow when subtracting. Do you think he’s equipped to make an intelligent choice when a recruiter promises him the world?
and for Israel
