While Trump was golfing, families were mourning.
  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    45·
    5 months ago

    It is not “uncalled for”. It was deliberate called for to distract from the presidents failures and crimes.

  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    37·
    5 months ago

    Simmons’ cousin, Stephan Douglas, told NBC4 in Simmons’ native Ohio. “We believe this could have been prevented. It’s a sad day.”

    Nah bro, every AmeriKKKan soldier’s death could have been easily prevented by simply not signing up to join the baby-killing machine

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      40·
      5 months ago

      I know a lot of people who have served here. They didn’t believe that they had many other options.

      Things are bad in America, and they have been for most of the 2000’s. People outside the country don’t understand this fully sometimes.

      • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        26·
        5 months ago

        We’ve seen how yous frame everyone you don’t like as terrorists and all of their family, relatives, neighbors, neighborhood, city, country are fair game but sure “people outside this country don’t understand this”.

        US has been shit throughout history if you ever read a history book.

        Serving the military is a choice and the consequences are a part of the contract.

      • [object Object]@lemmy.world
        22·
        5 months ago

        “Things are bad in Russia, and they have been for most of the 2000’s. People outside the country don’t understand this fully sometimes.”

      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        17·
        5 months ago

        I’m AmeriKKKan. I understand completely how bad it is here.

        Not an excuse.

        If given a choice between “join the military or X”, you pick X unless it’s more unethical than joining the military. Even if it was “join the military or else you literally die”, you need to pick “literally die”, and then that’s just how your story ends, tough noogies, but at least you didn’t work for the baby killing machine.

          • FlexibleToast@lemmy.worldEnglish
            12·
            5 months ago

            People don’t understand how the military is the best social ladder in America and how desperate people are to climb it. I worked at Walmart before the military. After the military my first job was making 6 figures. I went from just over poverty, to in something like the top ~15% of earners.

          • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            The American economy has been jury-rigged for decades to pipeline disadvantaged youth into the military, and said youth are very close to thve bottom of the list of people responsible for that dynamic.

            Completely and utterly aware of that dynamic, but what parts of “no excuse” and “baby-killing machine” are so difficult for AmeriKKKan people to understand? We all know that there are some things you “just don’t do” because they are monstrous to do! Joining the AmeriKKKan military needs to be one of them!

            said youth are very close to the bottom of the list of people responsible for that dynamic.

            Right but that doesn’t make them not responsible at all for their individual choices, individual actions, or for their part in the baby-killing machine. Obviously the capitalists are the ones most responsible by several orders of magnitude, but that does not mean that working people or poorer people who put their bodies on the line to work for the capitalists’ baby-killing machine are completely innocent. Like you do not lose your moral agency once you fall below the poverty line.

            Like I’m asking for the absolute bare minimum of resisting temptation and liberals in this thread are like “no, soldiers are like innocent little baby lambs who have been shepherded into the military and have no moral agency” and like, fuck right off to hell with that take. Troops are people with the same ability to make moral decisions as any other people, and ostensibly they’re tough people, so they should be able to process this extremely simple if distressing reality that their “”“service”“” was evil and that they have to live with the consequences of their own mistake.

            • altkey (he\him)@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              2·
              5 months ago

              I am probably not as harsh talking as you, but I find this blanket forgiveness for our boys in camo kinda worrying too. One day all Lemmy angers at ICE recruits in tacticool gear shooting and kidnapping people, the second day we clap to DEATH DEATH TO IDF, and on the third day we are supposed to mourn an american war pilot who died doing missions in a foreign country on behalf of Trump and Netanyahu.

              A career soldier, not a draftee, who could have chosen not to join the military or, when faced with inevitable active participation - get (dishonorably) discharged, just went with it. Dude, there are a corpus of laws about death and funerals on your job, you thought you would sit it out, or worse, you wanted to outsource your own personal misery to the lands you can’t even point on the map? Or, say, you didn’t choose it but just went with the flow your whole life? What if your best pals could’ve invited you to Abu Ghraib - could you say no? Could you choose anything for yourself? Are you a fucking person at all?

              There is a rehabilitation arc to anyone, even to the worst of the worst if they choose to quit doing bad things and/or work at undoing damage they dealt. Fate wasn’t so fair to this guy as he was caught ready to airbomb iranians, without a second chance, what a bummer. If it wasn’t for that, he could’ve got 6 figures salary and gone through this pain with a personal therapist, reflecting on what he has done and finding his peace at last. No more screaming iranians schoolgirls on fire at night, only quality sleep. Thanks to the sponsor of this podcast, MyPillow.

    • some_designer_dude@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
      8·
      5 months ago

      Also “We believe this could have been prevented. It’s a sad day” is pretty weak “raging”. This still sounds sycophantic

      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        4·
        5 months ago

        No Western company has no blood on their hands of course, and for this reason (and so many others) they should all be relegated to the dustbin of history like our entire culture, including the company I personally work for.

        Frankly, I am 1000% willing to face a revolutionary firing squad for my limited part in the AmeriKKKan Empire if that’s what justice looks like for the people victimized by our Empire. At least I would die happy knowing that justice was served and the people rose up.

        But to suggest that there is no daylight between almost any other job within the Empire versus working in the military… silliness.

  • Sushi
    22·
    5 months ago

    Kinda looks like Trump is rocking a crazy ponytail in that picture am i crazy?

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    5 months ago

    Is the Jeffrey Epstein Memorial War starting to get through to the magats?

    • tetris11@feddit.ukEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      Pay for rent, an education, room and board. Many people see the military as a way to increase their opportunities in life.

      I’d guess it’s only a few (loud) psychos who want to be deployed to a warzone

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
    5·
    5 months ago

    MAGA’s attitude, “Life is Cheap.” If any of the family members and soldiers guzzled down the Orange Kool-Aid, mixed with Russian vodka, zero sympathy.

  • Archr@lemmy.world
    5·
    5 months ago

    I see many people disparaging the family. Saying that this is what they get for voting for trump. (unconfirmed, people are using them encouraging others to vote as reasoning to call them Trump supporters… Which is so awful and hypocritical.)

    I hope people can remind themselves that these are real people with real lives, dreams, and concerns. No parent should have to bury their child no matter who they are.

    Please also remember that service members are not given a choice to opt out of a specific president. For all we know the service member could have been the most stout democratic supporter.

  • answersplease77@lemmy.world
    5·
    5 months ago

    Do they really think their son is going to heaven? What was he killing people there for? Was this his way to make a living and put food on the table?

    He died mass murdering people 8000 miles away from an airplane to help a genocidal aparthied expand their settler-colonial hegemony, and help his pedofile boss cover their crimes and get richer from death and destruction of poor people.

    He was not defending an invasion or any threat, and dont give me that he was freeing people from a dictatorship when his US military is what enables and supports all the dictatorships in the in the gulf reigon and middleeast including unlimited support for a genocidal aparthied supremacist ethnostate. In fact, the only dictatorship his military does not help in the middleeast is one his country improvished with sanctions for decades and whom he was mass slaughtering their people when he died.