Now that the corpos and billionaires know that they can be openly and brazenly corrupt and greatly accelerate their schemes, we will never see a return to the politics of old where hiding it minimized profit regardless of who the next puppet figurehead is. You cannot un-ring the bell.
It’s basically this.
With the US’ bonkers electoral system, and abysmal education levels, you’re pretty much cooked.
You have an oligarchy, a captured state, a corporatocracy. Oligarchs tell voters to vote for the leader who will benefit them most.
Research suggests that it doesn’t actually take that many people to convince those oligarchs that another leader will be in their best interests. For example, if 3% of people who regularly buy things from Amazon and visit facebook and use ChatGPT, stopped doing those three things indefinitely by switching to alternatives, that would likely be enough.
However, I just don’t believe that’s achievable.
Fingers crossed…
i am predicting a small civil war during/after the november elections
Somehow this already happened between the gilded age and the mid-20th century.
yes, a General Strike… if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters
In the meantime, you can do very easy stuff like deleting your Meta (Facebook, Instagram, etc), Google, Xitter and Amazon accounts… but that seems like too much to ask of the American people… better descend further into fascism and drag the world down than stop using X
if the people of the USA stop working for a week, that would be enough to cripple the Orange pedophile supporters
They would just call it a terrorist attack from antifa. Americans are terrified of an uprising from black people, it’s why they all have 12 guns.
Man it’s so cute when you people think you know what you’re talking about
You have to be aware of the fact that those people are a vocal minority.
They would just call it a terrorist attack from antifa. Americans are terrified of an uprising from black people
even better
Europe is its own path. You guys will have internet id before USA the way you guys are going.
Half of the USA already have internet id in some form or another… also, I am not in Europe
Holy shit, this doesn’t work. It’s 2026. You cannot get the runway you need to ever make this happen. None of you even bothered to create the runway. You handed the runways over to the people you want to protest.
The very last thing you should be doing is deleting any of that. You need to be creating multiple accts. Building groups. Building hype. Spreading information and stopping theirs. You have no business ever suggesting a general strike until you solve how to control the messaging.
General strike is maximum effort. Online action is much lower effort. If you can not find success at lower effort activities, you’ll never get success at higher effort. You don’t walk into a marathons without running 5km just because you have big feelings. Need to work up to it.
A general strike would be effective but it will never happen because there is no safety net. For most people, participating in a general strike would mean starving. Most people in the US live paycheck to paycheck. If they don’t work then they don’t get paid then they don’t get to eat and likely wind up evicted when they can’t recover from the missed pay. Our oligarchs have worked very hard to build a system where a general strike is functionally impossible.
do you think people all over the world who have held a general strike were all well off and had plenty of savings to hold them through it??
Three things: 1. A general strike. 2. Vote them out in the mid-terms this November. 3. Full scale revolution.
Vote? Mid-terms? We’ve got an optimist here.
Nah, I’m no optimist. You’ve just given up too early.
Not necessarily given up. I just don’t think this entire facade called democracy will solve anything. I’m entirely open to other solutions, like the ones you suggested.
Though it should also be noted I don’t live in the USA, so I won’t be standing side by side with you guys. Not physically anyway.
Though it should also be noted I don’t live in the USA, so I won’t be standing side by side with you guys. Not physically anyway.
In lieu of that, please petition your government to immediately recognize and support any future uprising against the US government.
Vote anyway. If we can’t organize to vote our credibility to strike doesn’t exist
You’re right, votes havent mattered probably since computerized voting machines have existed.
But still, do it anyway. You never know.
I guess it should be noted as well…I don’t live in the USA and am not American. What are the odds we’re all discussing America as foreigners? That would be too crazy, even for this timeline. All the best.
The Orange pedophile already executed a coup to not give up the power on his first term… expecting he would give up power willingly now is just “ignorant and proud of it”
Sometimes those people’s necks just start squirting randomly.
We’ve seen it happen.
“Everyone’s saying it…”
Being allowed to run again, despite being a felon highlights a glaring gap in the ability of US politics to prevent shit like this from happening.
In the UK some right wing manosphere influencer keeps saying how he’s gonna run for Mayor of London (Ant Middleton).
People are gleefully pointing out that his convictions for assaulting a police officer and tax evasion bar him from the role.
US politicians doing their jobs, serving and representing the American people.
1/3 of US renters not paying their rent in a coördinated strike for one month would unwind a lot of landlord loans and collapse Wall Street which is where Trump stores his wealth.
Yes. Maga gets tremendous power from 2 main sources. 1. Money. 2. Social media, and also religion, but not much you can do about that.
So, like Kimmel situation, disney had profit in firing him, once peiple boycotted, it did not, so had to bring him back.
You need to make siding with trump non-profitable.
That means, you, an individual, even if you think your choices dont matter, you need to boycott every company that supports trump, no matter how hard it hurts you. Now, it does t need to be a complete boycott. But as much as possible. For example, there are suitable replacements for chrome, and google search. But not really for YouTube. You don’t need the stock for these companies to be zero. You just need the projections to be significantly negative.
This is especially important for the social media maga controls.
They are using it to brainwash others. Not you. They know you cant be persuaded to become maga. So they let you think it is free, and subtly control what you’re allowed to see, and they corrupt young people, spread lies, teach to hate women, etc… they wont show the ones they are brainwashing all the truths you know about maga.
They have this power because everyone continues to use their platforms. So number one thing is to stop using meta, twitter, and tiktok, no matter how much you love those. Force people to use signal if they want to contact you, not WhatsApp.
Organize irl, whatever local movement you align with that fits into being pro democracy and freedom and equality for all.
When people organize, they can donate, and fund. This lets you go and protest on congress’ front lawn. You can have buses, trains, free food, things people need to come and go, and create a sustained peaceful protest. And MAGA will see that. The administration will be forced to call them paid actors. So be vocal. Get pro democracy flags for your car. Put them up in your homes. Maga can control what the brainwashed see on social media, but not irl. So you need to be vocal irl. Social media makes everyone think all the world agrees with them.
Do all of those things, and trump will lose tremendous power.
Even if you act alone. Make the sacrifice. Show by example, and remember those videos of one man dancing alone, and then another joins and another, and once people see the movement they join in. Start the wave.
Having a test before being allowed to vote. Nothing fancy, just yes/no questions like “is water a liquid”, “is the USA in America”, “is B the fifth letter of the alphabet”, things like that, which any adult regardless of education level could answer correctly. This would filter out the maga portion of the republican voters and solve the problem.
Yeah… we did that. The tests were intentionally misleading, where the answer could be either of two options. The tests were only given to “certain people” and no matter what option they picked, it could be argued it was wrong.
The solution is making it EASIER to vote, not harder. Encourage people to participate and educate them. Every time you make it harder to vote, it only tips the scales to the establishment and conservatives.
Is the earth flat?
Exactly.
Maga voters would be so angry with us right now. If they could read.
People who answer yes get thrown off the edge
Vote enough non-Republicans into Congress, impeach, and convict? Wait for whatever is turning his skin purple to take its course?
Kind of had 4 years to get that shit figure out and still fumbled.
4? Closer to 200
Welcome to democracy & divided, partisan voters.
Bring back the McRib. Im serious
Are you implying that he would eat one and then suffer a heart attack?
Several. But yes. Breaking Diet and Zero coke dispensors at locations in DC and Palm beach would help too.
Vote in better Congresspeople who will vote to remove him from office. The problem is the people. Always has been.
In November he’s going to try and steel the election, if we effective block that, his days are numbered, so get organized locally.
Sorry lone wolves, you had your shot and and all your incoherent takes achieved was a poll boost for him.
Dude helmed one of the biggest child sex trafficking rings in history, whipped his loyalists into a coup attempt with false claims of “stolen election”, suffered no consequences for that, came back promising revenge, pardoned his convicted loyalists, turned them into a private army that has been given carte blanche to murder peaceful opposition, is operating death camps, has kidnapped and murdered the leaders of foreign countries with impunity, routinely ignores those in his own party and Supreme Court when they occasionally oppose him, is threatening all sorts of voter suppression (up to cancelling elections), defies the Constitution by calling for a third term, is backed by a cabal of the most wealthy and powerful individuals in the nation who are also clients of his child sex trafficking ring, is beloved by the nation’s police forces, has seized total control of the military, and has already ignored every check and balance that exists because he can. You can flip the entire Congress blue but unless they find someone who can physically extricate him and his cronies from their positions, he can ignore every impeachment, court order, and protest if he says “nah, I’m staying”. You really think his backers have worked this hard to gain control just to lose it in two years to the will of the people, the people they know would have a helluva time matching them blow for blow to force his removal?
Don’t not vote, but don’t be so assured winning at the polls translates into the first step of over-throwing the regime. I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?
My point is that in November he will try shenanigans and people will need to take to the streets to enforce the results of the election.
If he fails to steel the elections in November his days will be numbered.
The outcome of the elections is less important than the willingness of people to defend them, when he sends in the FBI to steel uncounted ballotboxes in purple districts.
And my point is that regardless of whether he successfully steals them, suppresses them, intimidates voters, even if opposition wins big, without teeth to back up any action they take against him (like impeachment), he’s in a position of power that he needs to keep himself and all of his cronies out of prison. A win for the opposition, even if the opposition breaks with Democratic leadership and starts coming at him hard, is just delaying the inevitable fight to be rid of him and his regime. The opposition wants to obey the rule of law, and that’s a good standard, but we’re dealing with a person in power that ignores the balance of power, defies the courts, and has the support of law enforcement. He keeps calling our bluff and letting us play by the rules while he breaks or ignores every last one to the applause of his base. How many of his supporters did we see lusting for a Putin-style strongman that puts on the facade of elections and democracy but would never concede to the will of the people? They’ve found their dude and will fight just as hard to keep him in power at the expense of democracy as he will. People need to be willing to defend more than the right to vote, they need to be willing to take action when voting occurs but the results are ignored.
“I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?”
We sic the National Guard on his ass, remove him via a competent military coup, and ensure the actually democratically elected candidate gets in office, while showing that new candidate what happens if they attempt to pull that same bullshit.
Which alloy do you think he’ll use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule
I suggest this.
Edit: to clarify nonviolent protests, at least 3.5% of the population.
Republicans need to go blue. They’re going to target purple areas for election fraud- deep red states need to go “That’s it, we’re done. You won’t do anything, so we’re changing parties.” They can fix small elections but can’t fix the whole country.
Thats not going to happen. The small capitalists and other cult members are simply going to stay home on election day if Trump continues to fuck up.
If the dems do manage to materially improve people’s lives, or at least create the perception of helping them, then the dem base will come out to vote.
The only way the dems could fuck this up is if they run on centrist bullshit chasing republican votes, again.
The only way the dems could fuck this up is if they run on centrist bullshit chasing republican votes, again.
I wish I had any confidence that they learned their lesson after trying that with Kamala. However, I have none.
So you’re saying I’ll have to vote centrist for 2028?
If the DNC gets their way, it’ll be your only option. Then in 2030 we lose congress again and 2032 we get another Trump.
We need to trash this plurality voting that keeps us stuck in this quagmire. Any other voting system would be better than continuing to use the worst method that leads us back to the next Trump in 4 to 8 years.
