America always was shit. You only felt proud out of, at best, ignorance.
This is a country that was built on slavery, racism, and genocide. None of that changed, it only changed forms.
what were you proud of?
Hockey, I guess?
I’m German and I don’t think that it’s particularly healthy to be proud of the country you’re from. It’s basically the belief that your own traditions, language and land are better than that of others. Like I get calling a place home, but so many places in Germany are as foreign to me as places in other countries. Maybe more familiar, but familiarity isn’t the same as something being good.
Aussie here - you see someone waving a flag going on about “australian pride” and “proud aussie” outside of sports you know it’s code for “racist fuckhead”.
Double if they use any conjugation of “patriot”
Anyone who was proud of america before was just drinking the coolaid. There are things america did that were worth being proud of individually, but soo many more not to. It’s the same idea as idolizing a person. The vast majority of the time they are really a bad person overall. Instead focus on the event or achievement and not the person.
Totally normal feeling and it shows you have awareness of what is going on.
There are tons of good people in the US and even more that would be good if our society wasn’t so twisted.
Exactly. Don’t let the fuckers think you’re alone.
The pendulum always swings back. Hopefully this will mobilize people more in the coming years.
I don’t think we will see a 2nd Civil rights movement or a ‘spring’ of any kind, but I’d be happy with anything close to it.
You’re getting a lot of the same comments in here, and I don’t feel like I need to add to the cacophony of voices decrying just how bad things have gotten (or, if you prefer, how bad they have always been and how they have only just now become more visible to us) so I thought I would chime in with one that still holds true today.
The United States has some of the best national parks in the world. If you are someone who enjoys nature and being in the great outdoors, whether that’s hiking, hunting, fishing, birdwatching, climbing, caving, exploring, etc. the experience you can get here really can’t be matched anywhere else in the world. We have the most diverse range of biomes anywhere on the planet - deserts, mountains, valleys, forests, badlands, swamps - you name it, we’ve got it and it’s probably contained in one of our many national parks scattered across the countryside - and the best part is that access is free for everybody.
Now, the big caveat, and one that kind of deflates this selling point quite a bit recently, is that a lot of the national park land and nature reserves are under threat right now by the Trump administration - there have been big moves by the executive to reclassify lots of federally protected land in order to expand oil drilling/fracking operations, as well as a push to force non-resident visitors to pay for entry, both of which are being fought tooth and nail by conservationists and environmental activists.
So, there’s something. We can debate on whether or not it’s a good thing to have national pride over things that we have little to no control over, but at the very least we can say we enjoy what we have now and take pride in the fact that our forebearers had the wisdom to use the law to protect the land and it’s precious resources and that we continue that effort into the modern era.
The United States has some of the best national parks in the world.
For now.
https://www.npca.org/articles/7044-parks-are-being-dismantled-before-our-very-eyes
Now, the big caveat, and one that kind of deflates this selling point quite a bit recently, is that a lot of the national park land and nature reserves are under threat right now by the Trump administration
Is there a way to jump start the mega volcano under the continent? I think we need a reset.
Maybe not the government, but look to the people.
Other than the people doing literally nothing to change this… What about them?
As an American, I will never have faith in or be proud of this country again. Simple as that. That ship has sailed.
Germany turned around after Hitler. Never say it cannot be fixed, or they actually win.
We do many amazing things every day in the fields of scientific and medical research. Unfortunately those are overshadowed by clickbait news looking for KK’s latest calf implants and Trump’s latest dementia-ism.
scientific and medical research
Big pharma, Big oof
Over the past decade, you can be proud of how you’ve made inclusive principles a standard feature of your cultural products.
Today, you’re facing backlash from the idiots who are panicking, but in Europe many of us are still lagging behind, and the positive effects of your influence on inclusion are still being felt.
Being “proud of your country” is the root cause for all this shit.
Be proud of your family, your city, your friends, your self. even your company if they do good by you and others.
Never your country.
Just like being proud of your family means helping them do their best, being proud of your country is a duty to understand what it does well and poorly, and do whatever you can to help it do its best. I’m proud of the mythology we’ve built around the US being the “good guys”, so it’s my duty to call it out when it doesn’t live up to that ideal, and do whatever I can to help it move in the direction of those ideals. Even when it stumbles, theres a worthy goal to strive for
If we’re not the first to call out the gaps, then we have failed our country/family/city/corp, and our pride is meaningless blind obedience. NONE of these cases should be blind trust or blind love.
I help my kid remember to do his homework; I can help my country remember not to be fascist, racist, warmongering genocide supporters. I can still be proud of them when they fail,help them pick themselves up from the depths of failure, and help them try harder next time
Being proud of my country is the reason I protest when I’m disappointed in some of its choices, otherwise, why would I care?
That would be the healthy way of looking at it, but sadly isn’t the case for most who are “proud of their country.” The reality is that many just feel proud because they are told to, because it’s pushed onto them from the moment they attend school (the Pledge of Allegiance every day in class is an example of this). Being proud of one’s country for the sake of it just breeds nationalism, which just breeds extremism.
I would agree with this.
Doing turds dirty framing it like that.
Act like russian. You will be surprised that most of them don’t support this war and their gov.
We are really, really good at making billionaires even richer while decreasing quality of life for the weak, lazy 99%. /s but sadly not really
