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    It has to affect them personally before they draw their own opinion

    Every other opinion they have is received through their cult’s regular programming

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    Gas prices are the actual red line for a significant segment of Americans. The world can be on fucking fire, but it’s ok as long as gas is cheap.

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    According to the documents the man sold children at auction to be raped.

    Thats beyond abuse.

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    I suppose this is the logical outcome of rabid individualism. It wasn’t their kids that were abused, but it’s their bank account getting drained at the gas station.

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      I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I’ve come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the [Nuremberg] defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.

      G. M. Gilbert

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      Not to give excuses for people but it’s also perfectly reasonable to express concern for something that directly affects one’s daily life, rather than before an abstract system of domination.

      Moral evaluation is overridden when one’s purchasing power and thus livelihood is threatened. The Yellow Vests in France started because of a gas price hike, and then transformed into a political movement. The Boston Tea Party into the American Revolution. Police Corruption in Tunisia into the Arab Spring… It always starts with concrete issues and then expands in critic of the system.

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      You can’t discount the underlying threads of misogyny throughout maga. Some women made a claim. Who can really believe them. Let’s be real.

      And let’s not forget the coining of the phrase “underage women” either.

      • Oh fun fact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_emperor_syndrome

        My older brother was gonna be a “little emperor” but then my mom gave birth to me in violation of the One Child Policy… so now we have a beef… kinda feels like those Chinese TV Dramas about Emperors and their sons fighting to become the heir…

        My mom constantly tell about some cousin that made millions on a business trip abroad and be like: “why aren’t you like them”

        Criticism against the system is dismissed, any issues you face is a character flaw, depression doesn’t exist, “just be better”

        Like I doubt my parents care about ethics… hypothetically I could be in the mafia and make billions selling illegal drugs and she’d be “proud” as long as I don’t get caught. Or some extremely corrupt politician.

        The takeaway I got from my parents is that: “Money = Good”

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      Rape is a form of sexual abuse.

      What I hate is when people say Trump fucks children.

      Consenting adults fuck. An adult raping a child is not fucking.

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    Factually incorrect, judging by the fact that not only has Donald lost basically every election in 2025 and 2026, but the majority of those elections he’s lost were in districts he won by double digits in 2024, both red and blue states.

    Americans are so pissed off about the child rape that Republicans can’t even gerrymander anymore, because they can’t accurately predict where they have voter support.

    And, everyone on this thread just pretending the meme is true, perhaps think through it a little before responding.

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      Donald lost basically every election in 2025 and 2026

      :-/

      I gotta double check, but I’m pretty sure Donald wasn’t on the ballot in '25 and '26. I think you’re underselling the rest of the GOP field, which has actually under-performed Trump himself even in the good years and is now outright shitting itself in the bad ones.

      But that’s not really the gist of the meme. Might be worth noting that Epstein was as deeply embedded with Dems as Repubs, having allied with liberal luminaries like Larry Summers, Kathy Ruemmler, and - of course - Bill Clinton. Meanwhile, roll the calendar back a couple years to the Biden Era DOJ and you find zero shits given about Epstein when Dems had control of both Congress and the Executive Branch.

      Then you’ve got “Kids In Cages”, which was a very big deal right before the '16, '20, and '24 election cycles, but suddenly stopped mattering the day after. Actual concern for real human children does not seem to move the needle on public support/opposition to a politician. It’s just a rhetorical cudgel to swing.

      If anything, the sadism inherent in immigration politics seems to get a certain sector of the voting base off.

      And, everyone on this thread just pretending the meme is true

      Slapping a sticker with a President’s face on it next to a gas station price tag has been common practice since the Bush Era. Very common for apparatchiks to hem and haw over the cost of a gallon.

      But when it comes to child sexual abuse? crickets

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          The president has historically been a factor. Trump’s broken with the trend, typically running several points ahead of the party as a whole.

          After three electoral samples (more than most presidential candidates can ever claim), we’ve repeatedly seen people voting just for Trump and nobody else. Like, vote Trump, leave the rest of the ballot blank. Back in 2016, it was described as a “negative coat-tails” effect. Now, it’s more described as a pure cult of personality. Trump sucks in people who generally don’t like either party to vote exclusively for him.

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            He literally said himself that he cheated. The important point here is people rejecting the party because of him now. There are die hard maga not voting or even voting Dem out of spite.

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              He literally said himself that he cheated.

              He said he cheated. He said the Democrats cheated. He says whatever sounds good to him at the moment. That’s got nothing to do with the election results.

              The important point here is people rejecting the party because of him now.

              Why is it always “If they won, they must have cheated, but if I won then clearly the people have embraced my party instead”?

              Why do elections only provide meaningful information when they break your way?

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                Dude, the democratic candidates are winning or at least making huge gains in deeply republican strongholds. This is not swing districts moving half a point.

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                  winning or at least making huge gains

                  What are the odds that the Democrats win the Senate, even in a landscape with +15 D turnout?

                  Dems still have to defend somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4 seats and are in a position to gain… maybe +3-4? Six on a truly historic landslide. Which puts them right back where they were in 2020, with John Fetterman filling in for Joe Manchin / Joe Lieberman, and everyone has to peg their hopes on Platner or Slotkin not going completely sour.

                  This is not swing districts moving half a point.

                  Go back to 2018 and remind yourself of how Democrats played themselves against Trump in his first term. Two years later, how did Biden behave?

                  At some point, you have to see this for what it is. We have two business parties, each of which are jockeying to be the champions of a handful of deeply reactionary Silicon Valley trillionaires and their buddies at JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. What do you think a Dem Majority is going to do about ICE in 2027? What do you think they’re going to do with the Epstein Files? What do you think they’re going to do about Iran?

                  Go back to 2021. Go back to 2012 and 2008. Go back to 1993 or 1977. There’s a pattern here, for those with eyes to see.

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      Republicans are the more religious of the bunch, and their “youth pastors” have a long track record of child abuse and these people make pedophiles their leaders religious and political, so there is that.

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      Also, meme isn’t invalidated by the fact it doesn’t apply to everyone. It does apply to some, and it’s a really dumb or shitty line they’re drawing.

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      this is true, you can see deep red con state harshly turning on donald, all the simple idiots now know he isn’t going to help them and that he is a dangerous loon and there running, don’t get it twisted tho, their are still plenty that follow him.

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    As someone unfortunately living in the states, I would like to apologize for our idiotic population

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    Yeah. Pretty much. CSA is gonna happen to someone somewhere sometime, that’s their problem, but 50 cents more for gas is happening to me right here right now!

    Not my belief, but I’ve got a bunch of idiot neighbors and at least two mega chuches near me.

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      Because the right has a renowned lack of empathy for people who aren’t themselves. We see it time and again in the leopards eating their faces that they then get upset over something.

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    In fact, most Americans didn’t like what was in Epstein files and Trump support fell substantially following the release of them.

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      actually i thought of this recently and came up with the concept of a “coherence length” which describes the distance up to which you still care about things … so if it’s 50 km then you care about things that happen within 50 km around you.

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      Sadly it is a very human thing. Most people are entirely content to ignore anything outside their monkeysphere.

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      Psh, I outrage over other things too. Like why the fuck does uncooked cabbage look similar enough to lettuce that when I ask my spouse to get lettuce she comes back with cabbage! Now I have to ask for spinach or spring mix to ensure I get a product usable for the task! Outrage I tell you. The developers need to amend the color of all cabbage to purple, and add nutrients to iceberg lettuce while keeping it cheap.

      Earth v2.61 review 4.7/10

      Edit: also cheeseburgers should grow on trees in clusters with peels like bananas so they don’t kill excessive animal life and don’t get rained on. Just peel the outside and pull out the cheeseburger, bun and all. Different plant varieties having preset condiments/seasonings would be nice as well.