• rockSlayer
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    8 days ago

    Why’s he disappointed? I’d be fucking siked

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    Legality is not equivalent to morality. Someone can be in a country illegally even though they should be allowed to be there.

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      Given the number of times the, er, woke side of things gets blamed for terminology, I think it communicates the sentiment perfectly. When we try using very specific terms like white privilege or toxic masculinity , a great many people obtusely (intentionally in many cases I think) find those terms confusing or assume they mean something different than they do.

      You hear “no one is illegal on stolen land” and you know exactly what they are trying to say. Anything more complicated would be too long or end up trying to be specific in a way that would confuse things, IMO.

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        I agree with your point about the other terms, but in this case saying something like “immigration shouldn’t have restrictions” is clearer and still concise.

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      Yep, that quote wants to align morals and laws, allowing foreign people in a legal way too.

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          Right? I mean there’s a difference between living in a country ‘illegally’ and just occupying someone’s home illegally. I have a gf who’s American and I live in Canada. If she just moved in with us and stayed here, she’d be more than welcome in our home and accepted. But according to Canada, she’d be here ‘illegally’.

          On what grounds is she not allowed to live with us, who do live here legally, who do own a home here. Who are legal citizens? She isn’t occupying our house. She isn’t invading us. She’s just… Living here. It’s so fucking stupid.

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      I think that kisses having magic powers is just something of a general theme for stories at the time and place that the Brothers Grimm were collecting folklore, not something gender-specific.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Beauty

      “Sleeping Beauty” (French: La Belle au bois dormant, or The Beauty Sleeping in the Wood;[1][a] German: Dornröschen, or Little Briar Rose, Italian: La Bella Addormentata), also titled in English as The Sleeping Beauty in the Woods, is a fairy tale about a princess cursed by an evil fairy to sleep for a hundred years before being awakened by a handsome prince.

      The version collected and printed by the Brothers Grimm was one orally transmitted from the Perrault version,[10] while including its own attributes like the thorny rose hedge and the curse.[11]

      There, it’s a prince’s kiss that breaks a curse.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Frog_Prince

      “The Frog Prince; or, Iron Henry” (German: Der Froschkönig oder der eiserne Heinrich, literally “The Frog King or the Iron Henry”) is a German fairy tale collected by the Brothers Grimm and published in 1812 in Grimm’s Fairy Tales (KHM 1).

      There, it’s a princess’ kiss.

      EDIT: Though I suppose one could take issue with the disproportionate-to-population level of royalty involved in doing all this kissing.

      EDIT2: You know, oddly enough, I’m racking my brain and I can’t think of present-day legends and stories where kisses do magical or supernatural things. There are some characters I can think of where a kiss might have some incidental effect — I’m pretty sure that I vaguely remember there being some Marvel Comics X-Men story where Rogue kisses her boyfriend and puts him in a coma, as an incidental effect of skin-on-skin contact. There are some kiss-adjacent things, like vampire stories where a kiss segues into a bite on the neck. But magical kissing seems to be out-of-vogue today.