What is this recurring connection between big missiles sending men to the moon and the military industrial complex sending expeditionary forces overseas?

  • IWW4@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Dude…

    The US has always been at war.

    All empires are always at war…

    • MangoCats@feddit.itOP
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, but Vietnam was a pinnacle of sorts, and Iran started pushing really hard and fast as launch day approached…

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            3 months ago

            Vietnam wasn’t a proxy war for the US, it was a proxy war for Russia.

            There were orders of magnitude MORE draftee causalities for the US in WWII than Viet Nam.

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                3 months ago

                I just went down a mini rabbit hole.

                WW2: 10 million drafted, 16 million in the service. 400,000 casualties overall. I couldn’t find anything that split casualty figures by volunteer/drafted status.

                Vietnam: 1.9 million conscripted. About 17,000 casualties among the drafted.

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              3 months ago

              There were orders of magnitude MORE draftee protests in the US for Vietnam than WWII. Vietnam was the last conscription conflict for the US, even through today.

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    3 months ago

    The space race and proxy wars were a huge part of the cold war, and now, many things point to some kind of new cold war. I’m surprised by the amount of people claiming that there’s no connection.

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    3 months ago

    Pretty sure Artemis was in the works long before this. If you want to talk suspiciously convenient timing, look at the intervention in Venezuela just before before Iran.

  • DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    FWIW,

    In 2024 Trump won:

    49.8% of the popular vote,

    312 Electoral College votes,

    and,

    31 states + ME-02

    In 1972 Nixon won:

    60.7% of the popular vote,

    520 Electoral College votes,

    and,

    49 states

    Two months and 2 days later, Nixon turned 60.

    wc:File:1972 Electoral Map.png

    wc:File:Mapa Elektorskih glasov ZDA 2024.png

    Nixon played football, and at 32 years of age, became a lieutenant commander in the United States Navy;

    Cadet Bone Spurs, however, plays golf.

    Nixon talked with Armstrong and Aldrin during their moonwalk: “the most historic phone call ever made from the White House”.

    Trump, however, has a hissyfit while on his stupid website on Easter.