• JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works
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    31 minutes ago

    TBF current rulers aren’t even real rulers.
    Like, are they 6ft? 6ft2in??? Like, there’s absolutely no indication of their lengths.

    Politicians are absolutely useless for measuring things with, and it shows.

  • lugal@sopuli.xyz
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    2 hours ago

    We need a ruler because humans are too stupid to rule themselves

    Looks inside

    The ruler is also a human

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    12 hours ago

    I always thought of it as more of an efficiency thing. Perhaps a bad analogy, but let’s say I have a few hundred photos I took on vacation. Yes, I could store them all together in a single batch. However, grouping them with some kind of predetermined taxonomy can help make sense of things through the noise. In a similar fashion, elected officials, imperfect though they may be, consolidate the voices of many into the voices of a few. At a certain scale and across certain distances it does make sense.

    I think it was somewhere here in Lemmy, but I saw a proposal of randomized government appointments akin to jury duty which I found quite fun. Good way to make sure the populace is smart because any of them may be called up.

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      Yeah, it’s more about that. The fastest acting, lowest overhead form of government is a dictatorship. The slowest would probably be trying to reach a consensus from discussion with the whole populace. You’ll always need delegates for decision making if you want to make any society wide decisions, but it has proven very hard to make elected officials actually act in the people’s best interest.

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    13 hours ago

    this has some truth to it, but electoralism is not democracy. don’t let this discourage yourself from voting or from preferring democracy over a dictatorship or so.

    democracy is not for comoensating voters being stupid. they can be, but their intelligence is completely disregarded for the systems existence. it’s about being able to swap out the person in charge without a murderous power struggle.

    there’s a lot of competition for being in charge and traditionally this meant whoever was able to violently subdue their enemies first got to be in charge and had to constantly, violently suppress opposition.

    this was obviously horrible and only happens in democracies when someone tries to change them back into a more athoritarian regime and it’s time for the people to rise and fight to protect their freedom.

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    15 hours ago

    That’s why they give you just a couple of options to vote for and even then they rig the whole thing. lol

  • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Aah the misconception about democracy.

    People think that democracy is fantastic, just vote for what you want and it will be given.

    Nothing is further from the truth.

    Democracy has one and only one specificity that puts them over the others, it’s that you can kick a bad leader out (without bloodshed).

    That’s it!

    Now before our american friends tells me I’m wrong, you have to have a functional democracy, which you don’t.

    Personally it’s literally the only thing that, IMO, is missing from anarchism (are there anarchist systems with strict voting rules?). But that’s just my personal view of course.

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    I’d argue that the system is designed or at least indifferent to a majority being uninterested in the politics that influences their daily life.

    When you get to vote every 4 years on all topics at once while the choice you make is afterwards still influenced by corruption, coalition an lobbying that doesn’t further interest into politics at all.

    Imho: Let’s abandon representatives with fixed legislation periods all together and either elect officials only if they can be removed by public vote at any time or skip the corrupt representatives completely and let the public vote on any matter individually. This way ones choice has an actual impact an people have motivation to actually get informed on specific matters.

    • dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      14 hours ago

      One might suggest a democracy of action/labor, where you do the things you feel like matter in the world in the ways you feel are best. ‘If you care, do the work’ in a broad sense.

      It raises issues of ableism that need to be worked out, but its not like amy current systems dont fuck people, still encourages ambition, and makes things like amassing power more difficult.

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    Some people are good rulers. Some are really bad. With the fucked up system we have, we tend to get the bad rulers because they crave power. The good leaders don’t and won’t make it as far, as the competition is willing to do whatever is needed to gain power. That’s why this system needs to go. If we want a system with leaders, we need to hold them accountable for lies, corruption, mistakes, etc. A leader should need to pass tests of intelligence and clean a clean past. But most importantly, a psychological test.

    But since bad people will always play dirty to gain power, it’s best to ditch the entire system and leaders all together.