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      This, exactly!

      I’ll accept a substantial ownership stake in the whole place, in exchange for making a leasurely attempt to pull their asses out of the fire.

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    In a way, LLMs have already taken my job as a software engineer. It’s not that they can do my job better than me. But they suck all the joy out of the field, they expose the almost religious culture around efficiency and velocity in the field (no, i don’t want to be 5% faster to make the boss richer and feel miserable doing it) and how little my peers care about craft and quality. Also why do those fucks have to lap up every new technofacist oligarchy thing with such enthusiasm, it pisses me off.

    so it’s not that it does my job, but that it showed me how much i disdain this field now.

    I’m thinking of switching to something (cnc) machining/cad related, both skills i taught myself and love , but i don’t know what kind of position could be suitable given my dev knowledge and lack of formal training. Plus i wouldn’t want to do the operator kind of work where all you do is put stock in the cnc machine and execute someone elses CAM, that seems too close to using LLMs in spirit. I do want and like creative work and tinkering.

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    and I’m lucky enough to work for a university, so good work life balance, job security, pension, mostly meaningful work. Ironically enough in the AI field… But that makes considering to switch even harder. I could easily and comfortably coast along and feel discontent for many years to come.

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      Agreed, I love programming and taking my time to think through problems before I code, but my God these casual AI users at work lap this shit up and can’t be fucked spending an extra minute thinking before they write their code.

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    I work in cybersecurity. My job is in no danger. AI seems to be an expert in things until you start asking it questions about a subject you’re an expert in. Then it all falls apart. Anyone who thinks they’re using AI for cybersecurity or thinks AI can do cybersecurity knows nothing about cybersecurity.

    The only people who would use AI for cybersecurity wouldn’t hire a cybersecurity firm anyway but would instead ask their friend Bob who “knows computers” and would get roughly the same level of expertise as a result and feel just as happy about either.

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      That’s also what I currently experience in my position. A lot of workflows are going to be automated by some AI stuff, but whenever someone is planning to produce physical goods in masses you can not effort doing stupid misstakes. When you simply put the output of the LLM in to the input of your CNC, Ion-Implanter, Litograph-Machine, Welding Robot, Aribag or Breaking systems. A mistake is going to be sooo fucking expensive that the human in the loop is not an cost factor anymore. And when you do high precision stuff an approximate solution is never sufficient.

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        I always think years back when Jeep had to issue a recall for like 30k vehicles because a robot missed a fillet weld on a suspension component and QA missed every single one lmfao

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    Depends.

    My main job it would be interesting. I mainly plan for organisations how to handle disasters. Not necessarily IT disasters but actual one - what happens if your hospital is on fire, your airline has hundreds of people stranded somewhere (yeah, we had a bad time recently), your muncipial water supply goes bad, the Russians actually come,etc.

    If AI can do that on a level it replaces my staff and me…well…good for everyone else,because right now it’s a underdeveloped and rarely looked upon issue.

    In my side job I am still working in my original trade as a critical care paramedic. Until AI can fully replace one there it will take a long time (but we see a lof of actually beneficial developments that makes the job insanely more easy and capable) and I am very likely retired by then. What is far more likely is that societies won’t be able to pay for proper healthcare anymore…and that would be “not replaced” technically, I guess.

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    I am studying CS. AI has already taken my job. I am glad to be studying CS anyway. I had a lot of anxiety about it early on and was bummed the fuck out, had to do some soul searching and remember why I chose CS in the first place. I like computers, I wanna know how they work. And I don’t wanna let AI dumben me down and make me forget for the bubble will eventually pop.

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      Unless something revolutionary happens, AI is not taking your job anytime soon. This is just another wave of the tech sector trying to beat down developers because they don’t want to pay them.

      If current AI systems could actually replace people, the the job market would have already collapsed. Right now in the US the job market sucks because of Trumps policies and wars.

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    There’s no reason for that sort of planning, because AI can’t do shit. Especially not reliably and dependably. The CEOs who claim to have replaced people are lying. A price explosion for LLMs is also necessarily coming, because currently they are all burning through privat equity funds like a strawfire.

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        already happening.

        They’re laying people off and then bleeding money. Replacing people implies actually still making a pofit and remaining a viable business. That isn’t happening. They are, as usual, sacrificing the future of each company, for a quick stock price boost.

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    It already took, I’m freelance dev and the only client I had decided to start vibe coding their own things. Never requested anything anymore from me. All he does is a .html page with raw javascript.

    It’s pure slop of course, but it seems it’s enough for him and do the job.

    I refuse to work in corporation hell.

    Next step will be suicide or living on the streets asking for food and temporary jobs just to have what to eat.

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      There’s all kind of dev work that needs to be done in industries that aren’t “tech first”, for example a industrial machine manufacture needs someone to program the robot arms and gui - ai doesn’t know how the brand new machine works.

      Commercial buildings have all kinds of systems; lighting controllers, audio systems, HVAC, networks, security systems and so on. All of that needs both someone to program the device (and firmware support) and someone to physically deploy and integrate those systems.

      It’s pretty hard to avoid corporate hell. Some people find success in smaller, well established, private companies. Less corporate nonsense, or at least HR knows your name and there’s no investors demanding a mass-layoff.

      My suggestion is to find something where you’re on-staff for a company that exists outside of the “digital” realm.


      Resources in The United States

      988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline 9-8-8 https://988lifeline.org/

      Veterans Crisis Line 9-8-8, Press 1 https://www.veteranscrisisline.net/

      Crisis Text Line Text HOME to 741741 https://www.crisistextline.org/

      TrevorLifeline 1-866-488-7386 (for LGBTQ youth) https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

      Trans Lifeline 1-877-565-8860 (for the transgender community) https://translifeline.org/

      (copied from duckduckgo)

      Not mentioned is 911, if you’re actively considering something call them too.

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      There are lots of things you can do besides working in a corporate hell that you should consider before you get to suicide. You haven’t even taken out a huge loan to start your own business yet.

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      Skilled trades have been flushed with folks who are green and have no experience that they’re becoming very competitive to secure an apprenticeship and long-term employment. It can be tough finding something in plumbing or electrical with no prior experience. Even moreso in the unions. If more office-level workers start getting laid off and start competing for those jobs, it’ll be even harder to make the switch into something like that.

      There’s a massive shortage for skilled journeymen and people with lots of experience. I love electrical work to death, but I hear “I’ll just be an electrician or plumber” a lot which grazes over the fact that any company training you is taking a hit for the first year or two of you working there.

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    I’m not convinced that there’s enough training data for it to be good in my specialization anytime soon. And it certainly won’t be trusted for safety critical applications even if that were to happen.

    That being said I’m very, very, glad to not be in CS or law where there is nearly endless data to train on.