• PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtfOP
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      12 days ago

      Is the Tesla the only EV car maker out there though? What about the others. Did they lie too?

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              12 days ago

              But how comen other EV companies don’t do it? why are you only concentrating on Tesla, there are other EV cars in US

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                because Tesla specifically developed and publicly demonstrated battery swapping, and then abandoned it.

                Folks are pointing out Tesla because Tesla specifically deserves it.

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                  12 days ago

                  Ok, so what about the other EV cars that never even tried the battery swapping. Shouldn’t they catch heat for not doing it as well?

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          Did they lie on behalf of Tesla? Did they force Tesla to lie?

          I don’t know, that’s what I’m asking. Did they lie about charging? How come they aren’t doing what this chinese company is doing?

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            They did a demo of this exact thing in 2015, possibly faked, then verifiably lied and said that nobody was interested and never rolled it out.

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              Why would they lie about that though, and how come other EV car companies haven’t done what the chinese company is doing?

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                Same reason Elon Musk’s Tesla lies about anything - it’s a grift. They got carbon credits for pretending to have battery swap capabilities, and they suckered customers into buying overpriced vehicles by telling them that they’d drive themselves.

                My point is that all of these technologies are actually coming to pass years later.

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                  Ok, ok, so what about the other EV car makers? Because Tesla isn’t the only one who chose not to use the tech the same way the chinese company in teh article did.

                  I mean, surely you wouldn’t have said all this really as just an excuse to crap on Musk because you don’t like him, right? Surely not!

                  I mean, sure, he really kicked off the EV craze enough to put in the public perception more than anyone. Sure he did the same thing for Space X. But hey he’s a bajillionaire who didn’t program any of that shit by hand, right? So fuck him, right?

                  I mean, that wouldn’t be the reason you left other EV makers out of your rant, right? Because or your PERSONAL hatred for him?

                  I like Elon Musk! :)

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    This is an infrastructural problem that’s much harder and costlier to solve than fast charging networks.

    Looks like they have 4000 stations and have been doing this for 8 years. Really impressive. I’d be interested to see their coverage map.

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      It’d be great if this took off here in the states. We need cheaper EV’s and more stuff like this. I know most of Lemmy makes $100K a year, but the majority of working class people in the US don’t make that much.

      In order for the rest of us to switch over to EV, we need lower pricing and this battery switchup.

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      Yeah, a lot of people were proposing these kinds of ideas early on in EVs, but as range and charging speed have improved the extra cost for this infrastructure isn’t worth it.

      Not only does it add cost, but would reduce range as it’s hard to engineer a easily swappable and slim battery (hence why most electronics don’t have them anymore.

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    I have never been tired of waiting for my current EV to charge in any situation that wasn’t a DC charger malfunctioning or failing.

    I wouldn’t say no to faster charging, or battery swaps if warranty concerns are properly addressed, but faster charging is not the issue for most modern EVs. The issue is there aren’t enough reliable chargers in enough places.

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      11 days ago

      Good point. I was excited about EV cars when first announced, but after seeing the costs and hearing so many issues with it, no longer on my radar. My E-scooter and E-bikes are awesome tho!

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        What issues? I’ve been driving an EV for nine years and, apart from a fun occasional ICE manual car, I can’t imagine ever going back to gas. But I understand that if someone can’t reliably charge at home or work, it’s not likely to be viable.

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          Costs. EV cars are still too expensive for the average person. Not everyone makes the salary of Lemmy posters.

          To buy an EV car, besides the fact they are expensive, most would have to pay for a huge upgrade in their electrical system to update enough to charge at home.

          Right now, EV’s are an option for upper-middle class people.

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            11 days ago

            used Bolts go for $15k-20k. used Leaves and i3s even cheaper.

            most people only need level 1 charging at home, and even if level 2 is needed it’s not necessarily a huge electrical system upgrade. if someone has an electric clothes dryer, that circuit could be used with a device that switches off the dryer’s supply whem an EV gets plugged in.

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              11 days ago

              My used manual hatchback, cost me $5K used last year, and gets 45mpg. My house was built in 1975. Brother, no way am I gonna pay for any of that stuff you listed.