The only way I’ll ever have children is through adoption but it seems most guys want biological children.

Most of the guys I met would say that they fear that they wouldn’t see an adopted child as theirs which honestly breaks my heart a little.

I did some research and apparently most adoptive parents generally chose that option because the man is infertile, not the other way around.

So it would seem like most men are only contemplating adoption if they’re infertile themselves but if their partner is they’ll prefer to just get a different girlfriend over adopting kids.

Let me know if you think this is not the case, I want to believe you.

  • CovfefeKills@lemmy.world
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    Yea it is one of those inherent desires programmed by evolution it is apparent in the animal kingdom. Species like Lions will generally kill the cubs of rivals when they become the alpha. Thing is you could probably easily find a guy that would be happy to adopt, but as you see in this thread those people are generally resentful of their genes. Are any of these people attractive to you? Someone that considers their own genes unworthy??? Who are you attracted to is it a healthy man with a healthy desire to propagate life?

  • Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world
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    I want zero children.

    But, I will say this: if you are with a person who won’t consider adoption, but you want that to be an option for you, then you should communicate that in a healthy way.

    Its not something that I would bring up on a first date, mind you. Sometimes the “kids” conversation comes up. You could always say that you have always dreamed about having a family with a spouse (if that is your thing), x number of kids, white picket fence, 2.1 cars, and a goldfish. It helps to get that kind of stuff out of the way.

    But I would wait until a couple of dates before bringing up the nuance of how you would make that dream come true.

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    I don’t want kids period but I’d do my best to be a good father if I got someone pregnant and they decided to keep it. I sure as fuck don’t want to be responsible for someone else’s kid I had no part in creating.

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    The main reason I wanted kids at all was to mix my wife’s genes with mine and see what happened. I am, actually, infertile but we had some success after 2 years, and an “accident” 3 years after that. If it didn’t work out for us I think my second choice would be a sperm donor. That way I still get to see my wife in the kids. The hurdles to adoption put it last on the list of options. Right behind just not having kids. Not that I wouldn’t adopt a kid, but going through the process is/was overwhelming to me. I prefer to go about it the way my parents did. Adopt the kids in your life as they need it.

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    If I had the money/time to spend raising a kid, I would totally do it. My mom was adopted so paying it forward only seems right, plus it would be literally life changing for the kid.

    Would have to be a slightly older kid, maybe a preteen or so? I watched a movie as a kid about a main character who lived in an orphanage, and I can always remember a scene where they were watching younger kids (toddlers or so) get adopted and the older ones getting passed over, so that would be a big ‘rule’ for me.

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    I don’t want children at all, but if I did I’d be open adopt a child. I have no need to propagate my own genes because I’m not that great that the world needs more of me in particular.

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      Yeah I just don’t really like kids. I’d probably adopt a teenager with good grades though. Maybe a scholarship to MIT.

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      I think that a lot of people think that having a biological child would mean having a “mini me”. Which sounds so weird to me… The kid is it’s own whole different person, they’re the same people who will get disappointed in their own kids because they didn’t achieve the success in what they’d imagine they’d succeed. Parents with a lot of frustrated dreams.

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    I don’t want to pass my faulty ass genes along, so adoption is about my only option

  • neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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    I, personally, am not most men (Citation needed?). However, I have a couple of anecdotal points of reference to go by:

    • Two of my cousins are adopted, and I’ve never gotten the impression that my uncle was uncomfortable or anything else negative
    • I know this family with one biological child, and one adopted. Same goes for them.
    • Personally I haven’t thought much about it, tbh. I have four biological kids of my own, so it’s not something I seriously needed to evaluate. I guess in an alternate reality, adoption would be a theoretical possibility, but it’s hard for me to say for sure.
  • thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
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    Some people only like the idea of kids, not actual kids. Most Americans at least are pretty much never exposed to taking care of children before they have their own. Generally it’s only the parents that assist with child care and less and less Americans are willing to get teens as baby sitters.

    So when they say they don’t want to adopt is probably because they don’t like children in general, but expect miraculously that they will like kids of their own.

  • podian@piefed.social
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    It may be true that most guys want biological children… but it shouldn’t be overlooked that most guys just Don’t Want Children (or rather, “parenting”).

    • Katerina@lemmy.zipOP
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      Maybe this is a by country/culture thing. In my country most men do want to form a family and have kids while women aren’t really looking into it they’re more focused on themselves.

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        Yeah culture definitely matters I agree. How are their (“most men in your country”) attitudes towards adoption?

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    I wanted to adopt when I was dating my wife, but that had more to do with upbringing. I was raised in a house full of women, saw multiple births growing up and just didn’t like the prospect of putting her through it. But ultimately it was just preference. She had other plans and I didn’t mind if she didn’t

  • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    There were fears when my girlfriend and her daughter moved in. About how I’d be as a dad, whether she’d be happy here, what life was going to look like.

    But it was the best decision, I love them more than anything. They make me happier than I have ever been before. Raising this girl is so rewarding, hearing her say “I love you”, reading her bedtime stories, teaching her about different games, seeing her learn every day, play in sports. It makes me wish I could quit my job and spend all my time as a stay at home dad.

    We’re planning to get married soon. And I am so excited.

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    I think men generally prefer biological children if they are fertile, we are wired that way.

    And I agree that it’s normal for men to fear/worry that they won’t love their adopted child.

    But when a couple agrees on adoption and finally get the child, the parenting switch is triggered and the responsibility dawns, then men will love their adopted children. I have seen that with my aunt and uncle.

    I can see why you are having a hard time finding a guy that prefers to adopt, but I am sure he is out there.

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      I’ve even heard of couples who do love their adopted kids but their love for their bio kids is “different”. I will adopt even if I’m single in the end I don’t need a man to be in my side for that.

  • Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Just by my gut-feeling it feels generally weird to actively go out and adopt a child. It doesn’t really make sense, but it feels like a thing that one should randomly stumble into.

    • teslekova@sh.itjust.works
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      This guy gives his honest feelings on the matter when requested, and you guys downvote just because you do not like his feelings ? That’s not conducive to good discussion. Don’t just downvote, reply. He even said himself it doesn’t make sense.

      • podian@piefed.social
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        You want the up/down vote feature to actually reflect its intended and original purpose of signifying relevance instead of normative approval?

        Lol maybe this will be possible if one day we can ever up/downvote (normatively) the up/downvoters (and have that information be used).

  • sexy_peach@feddit.org
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    I don’t see any issue with it. What I see is that many men just don’t think about having children at all until girlfriend/wife asks about it. Maybe that’s where you get the impression?