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    Carlson also spent last week ranting about how the “civic religion” of elites is Israelism (whatever the hell that means). And he backed up that conclusion with the old “If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize”, which is a quote from a Neo Nazi.

    He’s a bad actor who launders white nationalist talking points. He goes where he thinks his audience wants him to go. Don’t give him credit for finally changing his rhetoric against Trump. It won’t last.

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      Obviously Carlson isn’t a good guy all of a sudden. What’s interesting is that there is clearly a split in maga now because war on Iran turned out to be such an utter debacle.

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        The split seems to have started with the Epstein files and It’s starting to grow. I’m curious to see how overt it will become. Will it simply result in lower republican voter turnout? Or will a high number of former allies in government start to turn on him?

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          I think Trump’s days are numbered after Epstein and Iran debacles. And it’s almost certain that Carlson is angling to grab a chunk of the base when the infighting get serious.

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            People (&the media) have been saying his days are numbered for literal years and the ‘split’ ‘gap’ ‘break’ ‘riff’ in his base is just another talking point for clicks in most news articles.

            All I’m saying is, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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              If there’s one thing his base cares about it’s gas prices, and they’re going to be going through the roof once the actual shortages start to hit. So far it’s just been market speculation driving them because tankers take a while to arrive. The shipments that were supposed to leave when the strait was closed would’ve been arriving in the next week or so, and when that doesn’t happen that’s when the real fun starts. I just don’t see how he’s going to climb out of the hole he dug for himself here.

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          We might seem something like how his pedo pick Roy Moore lost to a Democrat in Alabama because Republican turnout was so low. Idk about an overt MAGA civil war. Most people I know who voted MAGA are just really quiet now and “don’t want to talk about politics.”

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        There’s always a split in maga.

        First it was the epstein stuff, then it was tarrifs, then it’s the iran war.

        But they keep forgiving him and bowing down. I’ve reached the conclusion that maga are unsalvagable as people.

        You can find the most angry violent hateful dog, and rehab them into being a better happier dog. I used to think you could do the same with maga.

        Nope.

        They’re so braindead that they’ll accept ANYTHING he does. Anything.

        Place tarrifs? Booooooo…oh, alright.

        Rape kids? Boooooo…oh, alright.

        Raise gas prices? Boooooooo…oh, alright.

        Go to war? Boooooo…oh, alright.

        Break into my house, and rape my wife? Boooooooo…oh, alright.

        I made that last one up, but stand by the fact that’s exactly how it would play out if trump went door to door raping peoples wives right in front of them.

        These people are mentally absent and morally bankrupt.

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          What you’re missing here is that people treat politics as sports ball when they fail to connect it to their daily lives. As the economic situation in the US continues to decline, Trump supporters will start having problems paying their bills and making ends meet just like everyone else. They will turn on him, and it will get ugly. What Carlson is most likely doing here is setting himself up as an alternative, and he’ll harness that anger for his own purposes.

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            I read a story maybe 2 months ago where farmers in Idaho had everyone they hired on their farm deported from an ICE raid. Without cheap labor, they were forced to sell their farm. The farm owners said they realized it was trumps policies that did this.

            There was a different story involving a family owned lumbermill. It had been family run for over a century. It wasn’t ICE raids, but some other new policy trump enacted.

            In both cases, they were trump voters. Full on maga. They admitted it was trumps fault. They also said they’d vote for him again.

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              Like that braniac Argentine that can’t pay her bills and plans on voting Milei. I had a conversation today with a client who is extremely naïve, poor, and entitled, but one thing we agree, all these people on the Hill and in positions of influence promoting them are probably drugged out of the galaxy.

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      He’s only changing it outwardly because he’s losing money finally. He smells MAGA going down relatively soon and wants to distance himself so he can run in 2028.

      This smug white nationalist fuck will get what he deserves.

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        Losing money how? Tucker was already going against the establishment even before the current war. Look at the 5th and final episode of his 9/11 documentary last year, where he interviews John Kiriakou: https://rumble.com/v70k53m-the-911-files-from-tragedy-to-tyranny-ep-5.html

        I wouldn’t trust Tucker or anyone to be president, but I like that Tucker at least admits his mistakes, including his mistake of opposing the 9/11 truth movement and being rude to them. He pretty much turned against the establishment after he was fired from Fox. He did dumb political hatchet jobs for years, then finally started to make real programmes.

        I can’t yet see how Tucker would run for president as soon as 2028. What would he do, apologise to republicans, tone down his criticism of the war, and tone down his support for the 9/11 truth movement? I can’t imagine a 9/11 truth president just yet. Anything is possible tho.

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      “If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticize”

      What is wrong with this statement? Geniune question.

      In China you are not allowed to criticize the central government.

      In north korea, you are not allowed to criticize the Kim Jong Un government.

      In South Korea you were not allowed to criticize KMT during the 40 year dictatorship backed by the US.

      In the US and Germany, you lose your job or funding or get kicked out of uni or lose your Visa or get jailed if you criticize Netanyahu or Israel.

      Someone please explain what is wrong with this statement, it’s a genuine question.

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        You’re not allowed to criticize orphans either. They don’t rule over you, they just have it hard enough already and really don’t need the criticism.

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          This is based on the assumption that orphans are underprivileged and aren’t capable of harming others. Which I agree with.

          But Israel isn’t underprivileged. They definitely are capable of harming others and continue to do so everyday.

          Orphans don’t train dogs to rape other people.

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      “Israelism” = Zionism.

      I never even thought I’d say this, but if he really said “Israelism”, he may be one of the few right-wing people who aren’t committing the gravest form of antisemitism: conflating all Jews and the Jewish faith as a whole with the sins of Israel the state, its leaders and its supporters.

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    This is what controlled opposition does.

    They (Carlson, Owens, Jones, et al), will all distance themselves from trump because they know he hasn’t got long left so will play the “We got it wrong. This one’s on us but stick with us” because they were grooming the maga crowd for his replacement and prepping the “blame it all on the last guy” routine.

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      I’ve listened to how he talks about MAGA now. Dudes 100% playing a character. This is what he thinks libruls sound like

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    If it destroy Trump and all it’s goons political careers it ia possitive. He still a white supermasist and is ideology should be fought

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    “It was not intentional”

    Just couldn’t bring himself to go quite all the way to the truth.

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    OK but how can anyone trust a guy who literally defended himself in court by saying that a reasonable person wouldn’t believe him?

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    This has nothing to do with the fact that all supporters of the current Israeli government are literally fascists genocidal racist antisemites… nothing at all…

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    He’s so full of shit and doesn’t mean a word.

    If he’s truly remorseful he’ll go away forever and never take another cent for his name or politics.

    By continuing to be a voice in any way about any subject shows this is just charade to distance himself from the man he worships. And if he didn’t really worship him, he worshipped the money he took to serve him. Go work at Walgreens or just retire idgaf, but just go away forever if you’re actually sorry.

    Otherwise every minute he exists as a media figure is a further endorsement that he begged and prayed for everything Trump has done or will ever do and he stands behind him, no matter what he says.

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      Yeah I mean this isn’t a Face Turn on his part, he’s a bigoted fascist who’s pissed off that Trump’s bigoted fascism has its list of targets in a slightly different order to his

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    Anybody with more than 2 brain cells to rub together could see how stupid and corrupt Rump was the first time he was in office. There are only 2 types of people that support Rump. Either completely uneducated morons , and intelligent people that just like to watch the world burn…that’s it period!!

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    Cool. Now he’ll use some of his frozen not-quite-food fortune to lobby and correct several issues, right? 🤣🤣🤣