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Fuck ICE.
They can’t arrest us all
I might be in the local minority, but I feel as though there are going to be major job shortages due to AI obsolescence. Since it will be a global phenomenon, this trend will lead to an influx in illegal immigration. Two new citizens will turn into ten new citizens in a few decades, and the quality of our universal basic income will be inversely proportional to the number of unskilled laborers.
… with all this being said, I don’t understand why the people on the internet are against immigration enforcement. The majority-both Republicans and Democrats-oppose having an open border. I don’t understand why this is perceived as a Bipartisan issue.
Because its implemented poorly with the least amount of humanity. Some kids that went into that system have been lost due to poor paperwork, not to mention the legal citizens that were deported on “accident” for looking too brown.
Will they care / understand about false positives?
Not likely.
Feature, not bug.
As long as they kill p. of c., it’ll be deemed legal 🫡🤢
Their “facial recognition” ends up just being a binary switch on a light detector
Took me waaaaay longer than it should have to realize “p. of c.” means “people of color”.
Still haven’t figured out if you’re censoring it, or if you think p. of c. is a faster way to abbriviate it.
Either way, that “shorthand” is stupid, and you should just write it out.
Folks who work in social justice will know the acronym “POC” but “p. of c.” I don’t usually encounter.
Are we sure it’s not “prince of caspian?”
Naw, it’s price of coffee. It’s way too high and needs to be brought down.
You don’t need to ask about likelihood. It’s already been shown they don’t: https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/more-than-a-dozen-wrongful-arrests-due-to-police-reliance-on-facial-recognition-technology
Remember 20 years ago when Wikileaks was telling us about all the false positives swept up in the War on Terror dragnet?
Both Bush and Obama got reelected. No one at the federal level gives a shit.
Imagine they would at the very least have some sort of double check procedure like a skin color chart they could reference if there was any question.
Targets for what??? Being brown? They need AI to confirm their racism? Was the old peter griffin white/not white chart not doing it for them anymore???
My thoughts were that now they can ID people tagged as “dissenters” to widen the net.
I’m sure that’s what it will be: proprietary and questionable algorithms to identify anyone that might not be a 3+ generation American of European origin.
And to shove justification off to a black box. Awful hard to put an algorithm on trial.
They’re gonna fall back on the algo being racist and not the storm troopers with the nazi tattoos, those guys are just doing what the AI tells them.
They need AI to confirm their racism?
Not confirm, but justify. “Hey, it’s not me - it’s this little machine that says you’re subhuman. I’m just doing my job here, man.”
I think they need AI to blame for their racism.
(ah others were quicker)
It’ll use AI and even if you have your passport and birth certificate on you, proving they’re wrong, you’ll be in El Salvador before you can plead your case.
i think that’s already the case
USA is going nowhere
Nah they are going to El Salvador.
Disagree. What’s further than hell?
Notably the risks aren’t simply that this will identify the undocumented its that it will provide a pretext to disappear almost anyone who isn’t white.
The question is does any given non-white person look enough like one of over 10M people to get falsely flagged given agents a pretext to remove almost anyone they stop. Facial recognition of one person against a large enough database will almost always provide at least on possible match this is especially true if it matches against possible aliens and not against possibly aliens and citizens. EG a query of both will likely turn up Betty Sue Smith is herself and maybe a possible match with Known Deportable but a search against only aliens may return only Known Deportable with agents dismissing any claim by Betty that her ID must be fake.
it will provide a pretext to disappear almost anyone who isn’t white.
Pretty sure you don’t need a.i. glasses to figure out what colour someone is.
You use AI glasses which claim to identify aliens because you can use its constant false positives to pretend to be following the law.
No but you can say “The AI told me to detain them” and not take any responsibility. “I was just answering orders” is sadly too common of an excuse in doing the worst possible things…
And if anyone believes that absolves them of responsibility, they deserve all the police stating they get.
The American people should wear masks and sun glasses when out.
Head to toe body covering… wait…
Isn’t there some kind of weird reflective material that messes with it? Or is that just the stuff celebrities use so it crazily over excuses paparazzi pictures?
Time to get your Insane Clown Posse makeup working.
I was thinking more Jokerz, but honestly ICP is cool by me. Not really my thing, but they’ve always been anti-fash and after Violent J’s daughter got into the furry fandom and formed an alliance, they’re solid in my book.
I think there was an article a while back about how juggalo makeup is actually very effective at blocking facial recognition
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
Always has been.
Cameras are THE tools for surveilance, and adding more everywhere has always had only one goal.
Everyone should be wearing a Luigi mask anyway.
Like in V for Vendetta, but Saint Luigi instead.
Look hard enough, or message the sellers and you can get Luigi.
Wrong. The glasses will misidentify in real time.
The goal is to “accidentally” arrest and deport US citizens.
Why bother they just target random people anyway. I have never seen any indication that their behaviour is in any way directed.
The point is to absolve the human behind the arrest from responsibility. “The system” gets to do the decision making, then the human can’t be responsible for making a mistake and arresting the wrong person.
So we are doing “just following orders” again?
More the corporate “this was an unforseeable error in the system” that absolves themselves of any responsibility.
It was, in fact, foreseen.
Not a problem, really. They wear masks? So do I.
Which is why they’re making masks illegal in a bunch of places. So bring on the juggalo face paint!
A very valid suggestion!
Exactly.
Beating facial recognition is simple.
I’m no expert, but I was under the impression that their tools use not only facial recognition that can (with a non-perfect record) identify people wearing nose and below masks, but also identifies based on cell phone and geographic data. So if someone plans on relying on beating facial recognition, they’ll need to also beat the other tools in use by wearing a full mask, not carry a cell phone, etc.
That’s also fairly simple.
Leave the phone at home (the best way to go) or put it in a faraday bag, but yes, there’s a plethora of things you need to do to be completely anonymous.
You guys have to install using fake mustaches/nose/glasses thing as a new trend… idk how do you call this
Groucho glasses.
The glasses don’t have to work, they just need “plausible” excuses for picking up anyone who catches their fancy. $1,500 a head, be it man, child, or woman.
