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    This is a frustration of mine with software. We make all these gains with hardware just to occupy the new capacity with cruft. I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.

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        I switched when the windows context menu had to ask washington for permission to open. Some days it took 10-20 seconds. Repeatedly.

        Well, it was one of the reasons, now it’s all snappy and predictable on my 6 gen intel mint linux.

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            Yeah, it is a case with proprietary shit thats only available on microslop. Its an endless cycle where we are being forced to consume slop on top of slop. This lock-in is strategic so that users of specialised software have no other choice.

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              What are the odds it’s employer mandated spyware to make sure they aren’t automating their mundane tasks. Or finishing their work in the first 2 hours of the morning and running errands/ chores the rest of the day.

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                This is actually quite possible. There where cases where this occurred. I would say that this is more so true within the age of AI. Work smart not hard is essentially an oxymoron in some of these companies, as exploitation is what they crave.

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                  They need the remaining 30% of their staff to carry the whole load. AI intent there to make work easier, it’s supposed to make fewer workers more productive (profitable for investors).

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      I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.

      This is literally what Linux is always like and it never slows down even after decades. It boots and shuts down in about 3 seconds each. Join us; I spent a lot of time typing a foolproof guide recently. Let me see it actually get used lol!

      I just played a game on Steam earlier tonight with friends; it launched WINE under the hood so invisibly that I couldn’t believe I wasn’t playing it on Windows. Nearly everything is cross-compatible these years with WINE, Bottles, Proton, Lutron, etc. There is basically no fear. If anything, the software typically performs even better.

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        I did not use your guide as I do not need it, but if I did need it, it would be exactly the kind of thing I would be looking for.

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        No adobe so no photoshop, no 3dStudio, no MSVC.

        So I have one “windows box” for that.

        The added bonus is it’s such a fresh experience to go back to linux every time 😁.

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          There are worthy alternatives to photoshop and 3dstudio max. Even if you /really/ need it, they can be run in wine or a vm.

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            Well not really, I’m “relearning” Krita but there is still some stuff lacking, making it a drudgery to use (fine software though!).

            And there is no real replacement for 3dstudio and it won’t run in wine/vm.

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              I’m sure I’m probably wrong, but what about Blender?

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                Blender is fantastic software and a good place to start learning non-parametric modeling, but if you’re already used to 3DSMax it’s a massive learning curve because of how different the interface is. Like you have to unlearn stuff.

                It’s worth the effort IMO but not everyone has the discipline to do it.

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      Well on the dim side, AI companies are buying up all of the new hardware. So we either get software that is somewhat efficient or we eventually move to “computers” that are just streaming sticks we use to access a Microsoft® Copilot® 365® Windows® 12® Azure® Cloud Desktop Experience Subscription Service computer.

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      Happening with games too… I’m tired of developers just lowering the resolution and turning FSR on by default instead of even trying to optimize

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    Win10 is when telemetry was implemented for the first time. You’d better be off with win8.1 with some custom start menu adjustments or straight back to a heaven of Win7.

    Or, inhales deeply, just install Linux and do not bother with MS crap cause Linux just works and there is some sort of a distro for pretty much anyone’s taste and preferences that will serve them as good or even better than win10/11/8.1/7.

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      The telemetry all got backported as far as seven and made a mandatory dependency of some security updates, so within a few weeks of 10’s launch, you either had telemetry or a machine that wasn’t safe to connect to the Internet.

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      Linux HDR support is so bad that it makes the entire OS not worth using.

      I was using Debian for 4 years but unfortunately I had to stop using it once I stopped being poor because it just cannot run an OLED as its supposed to.

      HDR is only supported on AMD cards and has abysmal software integration, even on supported content… Comparatively, it just works on W11, even on titles that don’t support it because of AutoHDR.

      I hope it can be resolved soon, but as of rn unfortunately its not there yet.

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        The problem lies in the fact that Linux could easily integrate HDR for everything, but NVIDIA. HDMI and MS are gatekeeping these features.

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        I was using Debian

        Say no more, fam, I see your problem. Debian is what you run for stability. If you want features, you need a more appropriate distro.

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        HDR in Wayland using KDE Plasma 6.6 and GNOME 50 is supported on NVIDIA-open-595.58.03 and later.

        A lot of specific applications still suck, including Firefox, but HDR is supported on AMD and NVIDIA.

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        Linux HDR support is so bad that it makes the entire OS not worth using.

        Really weird hill to die on. HDR is nice, but it’s not that nice.

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      But with Win8 you don’t get and Updates anymore. With Win10 there’s still the LTSC (IoT) version.

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    I’m in awe of how Microsoft somehow manages to make an OS somehow more dogshit than the last one.

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      Microsoft isn’t the interesting one at this point. I’m more in awe of how the userbase just keeps taking that shit. That’s a propaganda victory.

      At some point Microsoft will publish an update that will shoot the user’s dog and they will just share debloating scripts. Linux is free only if your time yadda yadda.

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        While that is the basic principle of economics, I was more marveling at their trashcan engineering, finding a new way to shit something so awful each iteration that we miss the last dogwater version

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    Windows 10 was never good, it just looks good compared to the radioactive slag heap that is Windows 11.

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      Hard disagree. Even though it’s initial outing was not the smoothest Windows 10 eventually got there and they made many improvements on Windows 7. So much so that it ran quite well for many many years which is why it was so widely adopted.

      Quite frankly it’s my belief that the reason they force implemented Windows 11 was because Windows 10 was running so fucking well that they were seeing zero growth in their OS sales cause no one was needing to upgrade anymore. I myself had Windows 10 running on a machine that was over 15 years old. And it ran quite well.

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      tbh the only problem with Windows 10 for me was the telemetry/Forced Edge,which could’ve been disabled via scripts,as well as lower responsiveness(maybe placebo effect?). but Windows 11, literally some parts of the Operating System use Chromium. Please keep Chromium/Electron/CEF On Desktop apps, i hope other oses wont try to copy this.

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    Of course opening the context menu takes its time. It’s gotta load a whole Electron framework first.

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      you just need a registry cleaner for that, dump out all the non-stock entries out of the list.

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    Internet was down at work today, I tried to use the start menu on a coworkers computer to search for an app.

    Got a ‘connection timed out’ message instead, and had to scroll through the list like a rube.

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        I had a bad experience with windows10 at the start. It had one process, I recall scvhost.exe or something that would eat tons of ram and cpu for no particular reason. I rolled back to win8.1 cause of that and skipped 10 pretty much entirely.

        Not even sure why people claim win10 is much better than win8.1. Start menu was dog shit, yeah. But how often users actually use start menu besides of shutting down PC. All in all, under the hood windows 10 was not so different from win8.

        Windows 7 tho. The best OS, literally.

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          Windows 7 tho. The best OS, literally.

          Best Microsoft OS maybe…

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        win8 is actually very good. just need to replace the start menu thing. they optimized the os to run on crappy atom tablets so it’s actually faster than 7 on low end machines.

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      At risk of being a cliche: try Linux. It’s really not hard to install.

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    All this can be fixed in Windows 11. One can neuter it to faster-than-Windows 10.

    …Thing is, if default Windows 11 is so bad, why spend weeks and weeks learning how to mess with it? For the same mental energy, learn partitioning and install Linux, or W10 like OP.

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    OP is wearing rose colored glasses, yes 10 was better but 10 was a turd in a blanket but you could do workarounds to keep that turd covered, 11 just took the blanket away and exposed the turd … . all the time.

    Like Trump accelerating the transition to renewables and e vehicles across the world with his bumbling incompetence, MS is hastening the transition to Linux from theres, i was there from MS DOS days until early 10.

    They really just need to use the Linux Kernel and do their own “Windows” skin on top, like Tuxedo etal

    i gave up and have been on Linux Mint then LMDE for 4 years now, fucking hell, all i want to do is click the icon on the toolbar and use the app i selected. My gf uses 11 on her laptop.

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      I think it’s an inevitability that Microsoft contributes to Wine and switches to maintaining a Debian distro. They know they don’t have enough skilled developers to continue improving windows.

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      The only thing i wish is that i could alias win-style drive letters (complete with colon)

      Muscle memory is a biiiitch

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    Windows 10 was fine until they started trying to patch all the ways to avoid using a Microsoft account. Windows 11 is horrendously worse.

    My work laptop, a Surface Laptop 7th gen, runs Windows 11. Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.

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      Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt. Fucking how.

      “Today Microsoft and Adobe are announcing further AI integration of their products. This AI will tune software performance in an attempt to counteract the slowing effects of previous rounds of AI integration.”

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      god i hate the constant “LOG INTO AN ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW” with passion. i once had to log into a coworkers teams account and apparently windows decided that’s good enough and automatically & without asking linked my entire local windows account with her work microsoft account

      one log in took hours to undo

      learnt my lesson - never log into microsoft through any of their apps, only ever use web based alternatives (and never on your main browser either, as sometimes logging out is just as painful as logging in)

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        Android does pretty much the same thing with Google accounts.

        “Oh you logged into YouTube music? Here, we added that account to your phone. You can now view alp Emails, access payment options and view the entire browser history without additional confirmation.”

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      Adobe Acrobat will grind it to a halt.

      to be fair, Acrobat itself is a very heavy heap of dung. There’s no reason for anyone to use it if all they do with a .pdf is reading.

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      Just because 11 is worse doesn’t mean 10 was good. 10 was a shit-show from the get-go. It came with aggressive dark patterns trying to trick people into installing it over their Win 7 and 8 machines, came with mandatory telemetry, ads in the start menu and a built-in keylogger.

      So it’s not “fuck 11”. It’s “fuck Windows”.

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        Agreed on all points.

        At least 10 could be unshittified to an extent. But I don’t run Windows on any personal machines at all anymore, so its a moot point. My work laptop belongs to the company and is managed by them.