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- cross-posted to:
- electricvehicles@slrpnk.net
This is more than the average fossil car owner pays in gas taxes, and really bad policy during a world fuel shortage.
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I’m not against an annual fee for electric cars, but it should be going to the state and not the federal government. The problems have with this are:
- goes to the feds instead of the states
- too high, even when using the averages
- averages are unfair to those who drive under the average
- money likely not fully going to road upkeep, and most certainly not to funding public transportation
Address those, and make it ten cents per mile driven for all I care.
Make it a fee based on vehicle mass and miles driven, have it apply to all vehicles and eliminate the gas tax.
Or don’t eliminate the gas tax, charge ICE vehicles for both, and then use all that money to fund the infrastructure for people to not literally need a car to live.
That would be a logical and fair way to do it. Which is why it’ll never happen.
And what about states that already charge? Texas charges $200/yr for EVs for the same reason. Will we be double taxed?
It is $250 a year for Ohio.
Well, ICE cars already are. I don’t know about Texas but certainly here in California there’s federal taxes on gasoline and state taxes. The state taxes are always explicitly paying for road maintenance, and the federal taxes pay for “infrastructure” in a vague but probably reasonable manner.
We’re all getting lost on the weeds on this one, but in general both the states and the feds are looking to make up the revenue needed to support road infrastructure lost when someone doesn’t buy gas.
And a reasonable person realizes that probably has to happen, but would look for a fair way to do it. A magat looks for a way to hold back any technology that doesn’t enrich their buddies
That’s a crock of shit. In my gas VW, I pay about $54 in federal gas taxes per year.
The average American drives a lot, and does so in a large and inefficient vehicle
I drive about 15,000 miles a year, which is way above average for my state.
Not that much compared with the national average which fluctuates a bit, but is around 13,500 miles per year
That’s just an argument for a mileage based fee
Weight and mileage to be honest
No one ever wants to hear that. They complain about EVs being so much heavier, doing so much more damage to the road ……
But don’t like hearing that road wear varies to the fourth power of axle weight so all cars are essentially the same and insignificant compared to trucks.
And especially don’t like hearing that I completely agree on varying by weight, for both fairness and that my EV is much lighter than their effing full sized pickup truck
Can we just tax based on the number of hair follicles coming out of my ass?
Discriminates against Greeks
Add it to the ice vehicles too.
They’re so busy fighting the culture war, maybe they’ll stop fighting the Iran war
They can lose multiple wars at once - but they can make it super ugly the whole time
This is more than the average fossil car owner pays in gas taxes
I try to drive my ICE car less these days since we have a short-range EV I can use for local runs, but when I was having to fill up my car about once a week, I’d be filling up about 10 gallons, and in CT the gas tax is 25¢/gallon, which works out to exactly $130 annually. Unfortunately that’s state tax and not the federal 18.4¢/gallon, which works out to just under $100 annually.
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