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Neat idea… but I don’t think federal law is gonna stop the oligarchs under this administration.
It’s a good way of getting the protection removed…
Exactly this.
They’d likely just rubber stamp an exemption and let them do what they want.
If not outright kill the entire Endangered Species Act.
I think the way it works now is they take it to court and get the judge to allow them to continue building while the court case works its way through the system and in 6 years when they determine it’s illegal the center has already been built for 5.
Don’t worry I’m sure they’ll pay a 40 dollar fine for illegally destroying a habitat or something.
Under the shadow docket, probably.
Yeah, the ship of legalism has long since sailed. It is sad to see how so many in the US has apparently not realised this yet. It is not about laws or the constitution or anything like that. They now strictly do shit because noone is stopping them, regardless of what it is.
RIP to the Endangered Species Act
No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.
But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.
Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.
Oh god, keep the bamboo and kudzu in their native environments. The ecosystem has been through enough!
Eh, ecosystems adapt. Most “invasive” species made their way to new lands on their own. The problem is when humans consciously introduce a new species with a purpose, knowing that it dominates against something the idiot human doesn’t like.
There are only really a few big rules to keep things going. Don’t get rid of the sole predator for a populous prey animal. Don’t introduce prey animals to an environment that reproduce faster than they can be eaten. Don’t plant clones, diversify genetics within a species(looking at you, orchards and tree farms).
Seems like we should add kudzu bugs and giant pandas to North America, and all will be well 😄
And also - most critically. When introducting a predator to hunt a specific populous prey, ensure that one of them isn’t diurnal while the other is nocturnal.
Oof, yes!
The bamboo is for the ruling class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_torture
We’re doing this to save the ecosystem from the data centers, silly! Let’s goooo!
In order to save the ecosystem, you must be willing to kill the ecosystem!
Should add sunchokes/Jerusalem artichoke in there somewhere, as they are food. I don’t think kudzu is? Lets replace that one.
Sunchokes spread like crazy as long as they have full sun, and are super difficult to eradicate, but are thwarted by being planted in sunny clearings in densely wooded areas. They can’t spread into the shade.
Make the land difficult for development, but useful for the community!
Oh no! Here comes Wisteria with the metal chain from the top rope!
But it looks so pretty!
Some can smell so lovely, too!
It does, and it draws so many bumblebees. I skipped trimming ours for one season and in the fall I noticed it poking out the top of the 2nd story chimney, it had grown under the siding, ~40 feet (12.2m) in one spring/summer.
My asshole of a neighbor planted a line of bamboo right on our fence line, so now once a week I have to go to my side yard and dig up roots or they’ll choke out my ac unit within months.
If you dig down about 2 foot (or several inches lower than the lowest root you find) and install a rubber barrier that goes from the bottom of the trench to up above the soil, it wont be able to spread to you anymore :)
You could use brick, stone, or cement, but if any cracks exist or form it’ll eventually find the way through, where that’s significantly less likely with a solid sheet of rubber.
Horseradish.
that bamboo is gonna be a clintcher
Maybe, but kudzu is no joke, either. Ask the entire eastern coast of the U.S.
When I was in Alabama, my whole life felt like it revolved around 1 rule:
“Don’t turn your back on the Kudzu.”
Except it’s only native to the central valley in California so if you’re anywhere else this is not going to have any effect.
I guess this person just didn’t look up its range or something? The species pictured there isn’t even native to CA.
Most endangered species have restricted ranges, which is part of what makes them endangered. So you’ll have to do the work to find out what might be present in your local area.
That said I did just hear they’re trying to build one in Roseville, CA which IS in the range of this species so guerrilla gardeners, if you happen to be in Roseville, go nuts.
So the proper name for the blue elderberry is Sambucus cerulea? Asking for a friend, who wants to be sure they get the right type of seeds.
Yes, that’s correct.
Besides which, of you could just propagate and pla t this stuff wherever, it wouldnt be rare and protected.
Just plant some American chestnut. Ignore why such a wide ranged tree is endangered
For everyone who wants to know why it’s endangered (like i did): Because of a fungus that originally grew on the japanese chestnut variant (starting in the early 1900s), to which the american chestnut has no resistance - it is estimated that in in first half of that century, three to four billion tree died to that fungus. In the original geographic range of the American chestnut, only 4 mature trees remain. There are still some root systems that sprout saplings, but they get killed off by the fungus quickly. There are some enclaves in other areas that still have a few hundred, like in northern Michigan
Lmao they don’t even care about humans. You think they’d care about beetles and berries??
Yeah I’m sure the guys on the ground would “accidentally” start the diggers before they were “aware” of the Beatles and berries.
Do this under the current administration and you’ll lose the endangered species act
They’ll be getting rid of that on general principles. But you might lose it a couple of weeks earlier
That kind of negative thinking will get you nowhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticipatory_obedience
This kind of mind set will only aid the oppressor.
Watch them care, they’ll just bulldoze right over these
I’m sure the pedo in charge, that’s just ordered the removal of a deep-ocean observation system, is certainly going to baulk at the thought of removing some plants.
Haha maybe under a normal president, but this one hates regulation and safety. He LOVES money though.
Then apartment owners will use this to plant them in areas where people are trying to build affordable housing.
apartment owners
people […] trying to build affordable housing
Unfortunately, these are often the same people. A developer will usually make a deal with a municipality that requires that x% of new units built must conform to “affordable housing” requirements. That’s it. It’s kind of a whole scam used so big developers can just develop MORE AND MORE.
Its not always bad. In areas that are already urban that scheme can be combined with fewer parking places near public transit and result in a larger overall supply of housing. And mixing poor families into nicer neighborhoods rather than clumping them together into a Housing Project can mean they’re not in a food desert and have better-funded local schools and a better-maintained building, maybe be closer to where they work. As well as increasing neighborhood diversity and interaction in general. It’s not helpful to profoundly destitute folks who need lots of services but it can help people who just need a home they can afford.
I don’t think I understand, are you saying real estate developers are NIMBY, as well?
No, I’m saying that real estate developers are overcoming the NIMBYs by instilling themselves into their local politics, and then calling for “future forward” mix-use development, obstensibly thinking about the “changing demographics” of the local area, wanting to build GIANT developments that mix high-end condos, affordable housing, and senior care (both assisted and independent) into the same space. This enables them to essentially control the housing market, and then buy up all of the nearest single family dwellings and repeat.
This is to say nothing about the massive developments going up all over our farmland outside of city centers, as gentrifiers are now bored/sick/scared of the city and seek to once again suburbanize.
Elderberry is also a wonderful edible medicinal plant. Their berries are delicious and immune boosting
So one’s father smelling of elder berries is actually a good thing?
Your father is a drunk and your mother the town hore is the literal translation.
Wait… translating from English… to English???
Didn’t expect that, did ya!?
Not if you’re French apparently
In case anyone thinks they can grab a berry off the bush, they need to be cooked first
Makes a great liqueur too
All (most?) liqueurs we’re medicinal products at some point. We just stopped drinking them for health and now just for flavor. They also changed some formulas to make them cheaper / sweeter
Radithor, for that healthy glow!
Beer is my social anxiety medicine.
It’s a great one
Now I want elderberry jam on my toast.
if today’s strategies are anything to go by : nothing is illegal if youre in charge
The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.
I had no idea Sambucus was native to America. Elder flower is such a quintessential childhood flavour to me.
Edit: So, growing up, my famliy worked at a elder farm for a few years. The name of elder always stuck in my head; Sambucus nigra.
Per Wikipedia, Sambucus nigra, or black elder, is actually native to Europe.
Sambucus can be found natively in large swathes of the world. It’s just that the specific type mentioned in the post is native to North America.
Makes me think of how American blueberries here in Sweden has more or less replaced our native blueberries (bilberry) in stores.
Oops a completely accidental accident happened where a van full of pesticide accidentally crashed head on into the tree and exploded it. Accidentally. Oh well, I guess the build is back on at least.
even if that would be an obstacle, it would take mere hours for them to change the law and remove the protection altogether.
No? That’s not true at all.
Yeah, it takes longer than hours to pass a bill, I have no idea what they were on about.
