Anybody who has mixed feelings about him need to listen to his interview with Jon Stewart on the Weekly Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-itNjgCJDxU
MSM/Corporate Media are doing a massive smear campaign on him because he’s railing against the Iran war and against Israel’s incursions. The money machine is stacking against him and he needs as much support as possible. The tattoo is a red herring.
MSM/Corporate Media are doing a massive smear campaign on him because he’s railing against the Iran war and against Israel’s incursions.
What is infuriating about Platner isn’t that his rhetoric is bad or that his totenkomf is “fake news” or whatever. It’s that it really is just Platner or actual fascists.
In a better world, Platner would not be a viable candidate, because he’d be running against a dozen Zohran Mamdani’s. In this world, it’s Platner versus The Genocide Machine.
And I’m not going to vote for the Genocide Machine. I’m still disgusted that a Shoot-And-Cry Iraq Vet is the best we can do.
I’ve seen people talk about the only option being Platner for months now. Isn’t the primary like, today? A lot of people have seemed hellbent on absolutely not supporting anyone but Platner, and absolutely not supporting any “Mamdani” to go up against him.
Isn’t the primary like, today?
Yeah, but Janet Mills dropped out in April. She was the only significant contender against Platner for the nomination.
A lot of people have seemed hellbent on absolutely not supporting anyone but Platner
Mills is currently the most unpopular Governor in the country, with a 29% approval rating (worse than Trump). I don’t think it’s quite so much hellbent on Platner as it is hellbent on not electing another Schumercrat. The only other candidate on the ballot - David Costello - has no budget or constituency. He spent the bulk of his career in Maryland, doing work as a mid-level staffer for the governor.
MFW the tankies all fell for Israeli smear campaigns
Well I mean there’s a lot of y’all who saw one documentary by PETA about the worst farm in the US, maybe world (a farm that no farmer I’ve met would mind seeing shit down) and decided that that’s every farm.
Propaganda doesn’t stop being propaganda when it’s your side pushing it. The most important lesson I learned from being in too many cults is that: if you tell a precisely told truth in the right time and at the right spot, you can mislead people (i.e. lie) very easily and with plenty of deniability.
I’m glad you said it because it’s been painfully obvious. They literally released a hit piece that he was a bad boyfriend. Not abusive just “bad” after 5 tours as a marine
The tattoo story is sketchy AF. I watched the interview (not with Jon Stewart, the one with Chris Hayes), and what I got out of it is that this guy knew exactly what he was inking on his chest, and now he’s trying really hard to explain it away as complete ignorance.
Well, here’s my take: either his story is made up and I wouldn’t vote for a Nazi, or it’s true and I wouldn’t vote for a moron.
When I was a little kid, I thought the ghost outfits looked cool. Does that make me KKK because I had a stupid idea as a youth?
We all have moments in our life that we regret. The man’s actions then may have been misinformed. Do you condemn everyone for transgressions forever? Have you made mistakes that you can’t take back?
Point being - despite that
symbol having been reappropriated/misappropriated/etc. from Nordic symbology, could there be a chance that it was done by an impetuous Marine in his HOOOO-rah days thinking “man, that’s some cool skull and bones,” and not something ingrained in their psyche or philosophy? Irony being the Mitchell and Webb skit being more on the nose than usual.Edited: *I did not realize that the skull and bones was the symbol. I thought people were up in arms about the Norse wolf since there are some white hate groups that use their symbols/runes.
despite that symbol having been reappropriated/misappropriated/etc. from Nordic symbology,
The totenkopf is not an appropriated Nordic symbol.
Oh, lordy - fair. I gravitated to the pregnant wolf with the knot since there’s a trend of white nationalists to use that symbology. Editing my above statement slightly.
When I was a little kid, I thought the ghost outfits looked cool. Does that make me KKK because I had a stupid idea as a youth?
Platner wasn’t a kid when he got the Totenkopf tattooed. You can claim innocence as a kid, he can’t. That’s the difference.
Also, assuming he did a stupid tattoo when he was serving and he didn’t know - and yes, okay, everybody makes mistakes - he had 17 years to find out. Not once did anyone in the supposedly Jewish side of his family point out that he had a SS tattoo on his chest? Not once did he have the curiosity to find out exactly what he had had tattooed all those years ago? Really?
Draw your own conclusion, but I’m not buying it myself. Like I said, at best it’s sketchy. And if you’re not sure whom to vote for in Maine, this might tip the balance, because nobody who isn’t MAGA wants to vote for someone who reeks of Nazism.
And that’s why I’m saying he’s a terrible candidate, and the dems just don’t know how to win anything.
You really believe he knew it was a nazi tattoo and still chose to get into politics on a platform that is the direct opposite of the establishment? And somehow not knowing the establishment would turn over every rock to discredit him and a nazi tattoo would easily kill his political career. And then also piss off all the nazis by publicly covering it up? And also not have the insight to side with the republicans where Stephen Miller literally plagiarizes Goebbels to give a public nazi speech? If he wanted to be a nazi politician he would’ve had far easier time being that by siding with the republicans and not run on a platform that pisses off both republicans and democrats.
I’m drawing the conclusion that he was a dumb ass crayon eating marine who got his tattoo vetted (multiple times) by the USMC and didn’t think anything more about it. Because the alternative is that he’s the biggest moron on the planet and Nick Shirley exists so he’s obviously not the biggest moron.
I’m drawing the conclusion that he was a dumb ass crayon eating marine who got his tattoo vetted (multiple times) by the USMC and didn’t think anything more about it.
Yeah alright. Fair enough. Your argument is valid.
Then like I said, if he’s not a Nazi, I wouldn’t vote for a crayon-eating dum-dum.
So, you’ll vote for the actual fascist instead?
He was a crayon-eating dum-dum. It’s pretty clear somewhere along the line he stopped being a crayon-eater and grew up. 10-20 years ago I wasn’t a crayon-eating dumbass but I was a neoliberal dumbass, now I openly criticize neoliberalism for being fucking stupid. People change and I doubt Platner holds the same views he had 20 years ago when he was a dumb grunt.
Were you also at Abu Ghraib? Did you also serve several tours in Iraq, murdering countless civilians? Did you also work for Blackwater?
Apt username.
Did you even know what traits separated a totenkopf from any other skull and crossbones before this scandal? And your hypothesis is that sometime in those 17 years his Jewish family recognized it, told him, and he said “nah, I’ll keep it”? The secret Nazi theory just doesn’t make any sense.
The reality is the totenkopf is a relatively obscure symbol, is similar to popular benign symbols, and tattoos blur over time. That’s why he got through the military tattoo reviews.
According to Wikipedia, nothing distinguishes a totenkopf from other skull symbols, with or without bones behind it. Poison symbol? Totenkopf. Punisher logo? Totenkopf. Skull with a bullet hole in it? Believe it or not, totenkopf.
This is so fucking disingenuous.
Might want to think about taking a step back and considering why you’re defending Nazi symbology
Go read the Wikipedia page. It’s silly.
I have no idea if it’s a realistic depiction of what qualifies or not, but practically any skull used in a vaguely militaristic context qualifies under its description.
Not once did anyone in the supposedly Jewish side of his family point out that he had a SS tattoo on his chest?
I’m Jewish, if I saw that on his chest I wouldn’t have any idea what it means. How could I inform him of his mistake if I didn’t know. And if I did know I would have been steering clear of him, not talking to him about his tattoo.
It’s a skull-and-bones. In modern day it is far more associated with pirates than it is Nazis, and he was in the Marines.
you:
Platner wasn’t a kid when he got the Totenknopf tattoed. You can claim innocence as a kid, he can’t. That’s the difference.
me:
could there be a chance that it was done by an impetuous Marine in his HOOOO-rah days thinking
Why do people think this is a good defense? How low is the fucking bar?
When I was a little kid, I thought the ghost outfits looked cool. Does that make me KKK because I had a stupid idea as a youth?
What an absolutely insane attempt at an analogy.
Do you think he’s a secret Nazi or a reformed Nazi? Because there’s a galaxy between a person who is trying to trick their way into advancing white supremacy, and a person who has walked down a dark path and learned from it.
I would personally never vote for anyone who ever had such disgusting views, regardless of claims of “reformation”.
Call me crazy I guess.
It doesn’t matter what I think - but I think he’s a dimwit, for what it’s worth.
My point is that, once again, the democrats managed to find possibly the most controversial candidate they could find, when it would have been so easy to go with someone with a genuine connection to the voters and without the stupid baggage of awkward questions.
“The Democrats” didn’t do anything. Platner is the outsider here. I swear to God, if Mills had stayed in the race y’all would be wailing about DNC corruption. But a flawed outsider? Also DNC corruption, somehow.
Platner is only where he is because he has a real connection with voters. If he didn’t, he’d have been pushed out by Mills, tha actual DNC “Next Wo/Man Up.”
Stop for campaigning Susan Collins.
Because that is your choice, Graham or Susan.
Or maybe you’re just really invested in the GOP holding on to Congress, in that case, I guess keep doing what you’re doing.
Its crazy to watch the slop operate on people in real time.
I’m going by what the man himself said to Chris Hayes in that interview. No slop involved.
Yeah he is obviously being smeared in the media. However, that doesn’t mean you should just ignore the red flags.
Weekly Show 🏅
I can’t believe people would rather have Susan Collins over an imperfect progressive.
The mental gymnastics of purity tests for every candidate are going to be the downfall of American democracy.
I understand distrust in politicians, but come on, this isn’t a case of the lesser of two evils. It’s a regular guy who is putting forth progressive policy ideas and a proven supporter of everything wrong with modern politics. Not to mention, Collins does almost nothing for her constituents anymore and is so out of touch it’s absurd.
Mainers fortunately don’t care about the purity test nonsense.
Nothing will ever be good enough for the contrarian asshats who just want everything to burn down.
Nuh uh
Putting forward a candidate who went to Iraq to do mass murder for fun and telling people to vote for him is the downfall of American democracy.
People are capable of change and recognizing their mistakes. I recommend you try it.
Try what
Deez nuts
Ha! Gottem
No no no you don’t understand, who hasn’t committed a little war crime and enjoyed it every now and then? And him calling the war criminals of fallujah “war heroes”, well that’s just freedom of speech; doesn’t get much more american than that! And sure, he wants to expand the navy, but that’s just so we can defend ourselves better in the middle east! And the nazi tattoo? Well come on now, boys will be boys ;)
Every time I get into it with one of these people online it goes exactly the same way:
Them, acting like Nazis and pointing fingers: “Platner has NAZI tattoos!”
Me: [pointing out that Platner is up against literal fascists, building concentration camps and filling them with immigrants; Hegseth has proven and unambiguous Nazi tats and acts like a Nazi; etc]
Them: “But his tattoos! His TATTOOOOOOS!”
It’s all they have. And if they don’t care about Hegseth’s multiple Nazi/white nationalist tats, don’t even have an answer for them, then why should I care about Platner’s? Without the actual ideology behind it, it’s just ink, and it’s pretty clear that whatever Platner is, he’s not an ideological Nazi, so I don’t give a good goddamn how many tats Platner has.
So now every time these motherfuckers start pearl-clutching about Platner, a voice reaches up from the past in my head and softly says,
"I believe that the president has learned from this case. The president has been impeached. That’s a pretty big lesson.”
That little voice never fails. Bless Susan Collins for that turd of wisdom she dropped back in 2020 as sufficient reason not to convict in the Senate impeachment trial, because that same stupid ass line is still ringing through the years. Trump did indeed learn his lesson: that Susan Collins would never act to lift a finger against him.
I wouldn’t vote for Mills, either. But Collins is not worthy of the office, nor of the great state that sent her. Maine can do better. I’d vote for Platner just because of Collins.
People have a legitimate fear of electing another John Fetterman who will say everything right until they have the seat, then turn around and end up a Republican sleeper. That’s not an entirely unfounded concern. Unfortunately, all we have to convince them otherwise is words, and the Democrat party doesn’t exactly have a high degree of trust among people for the quality of their vetting right about now.
The problem here is that whatever Platner is, Collins is actively working to destroy democracy in this country.
Platner is unproven, but that is all he is.
Collins, on the other hand, IS proven – to be corrupt and working against the best interests of her constituents and this country.
You did not actually directly address anything I said, you just tried to change the conversation back to “Platner bad” along with some spurious “we” claims. But there is NO “we” anywhere in what you said for me.
And the direct reason for my absence in your assumed “we” – I mean beside the fact that you personally are Canadian and not an American Democrat – is Zohran Mamdani.
Platner could be a Fetterman or a Sinema, true. But he could also be a Mamdani. And at the very fucking least he won’t be a Collins.
I’m not sure what you think you’re proving by pointing out I’m Canadian. We all have a vested interest in making sure the Republicans get wiped out. If anything, the only role I do have in an American election is appealing to Americans not to put the lives and safety of my own people at risk by electing another Republican.
Not being Collins isn’t good enough to motivate people to support him. People need a reason to believe that his actions will match his words. Fetterman is also actively working to end democracy in the US. Whether he does it with a D or an R in front of his name is irrelevant. Mamdani won credibility by getting his hands dirty and putting actions on display to prove he wasn’t just parroting rhetoric. If you want to convince people he’s on the level, don’t focus on attacking Collins, focus on telling people what he’s done to back up his rhetoric.
Oh and you might want to boost your own credibility by not copying and pasting AI slop. The em-dashes all over your post are a dead giveaway.
Not being Collins isn’t good enough to motivate people to support him.
Without Platner, all there is left is Collins, so yeah, it is. If you’re so interesting in “wiping out” Republicans for “the lives and safety” of “your people” then why are you hitting against Platner? Have you forgotten that Collins is a Republican?
As a first-time candidate for his office, Mamdani was unable to back up what he was talking about before the election, so your assertion, “Mamdani won credibility by getting his hands dirty and putting actions on display to prove he wasn’t just parroting rhetoric,” is a demonstrable untruth. Graham Platner is also a first-time candidate.
But it doesn’t matter, because it’s down to Collins and Platner now. If you like Trump and you like what he’s done, definitely continue supporting Collins, because she always has supported the orange chancre and continues to do so.
Oh and you might want to boost your own credibility by not copying and pasting AI slop. The em-dashes all over your post are a dead giveaway.
I’m what AI trained on, lol. To boost your own credibility, you might want to look at the source of my comment. Go ahead, it’s that little paper icon with the bent corner. These aren’t em-dashes.
And when you’re done with that, take a look at my post history. I’ve been writing like this for decades, long before AI, and you could probably dig some of that up as well, if you’re interested in more than just throwing out untruths and false accusations.
And if you personally knew how to write, you’d see enough grammatical and punctuation errors to know that my prose never saw the inside of an LLM, lol.
If Platner is not demonstrably better than Collins, there is no point in voting at all the state is already a lost cause. Mamdani didn’t have any policy achievements to show. There are 100,000 different ways to show that you practice what you preach.
But keep screaming at people trying to help you. I’m sure that will win votes. Maybe you should sit this election out friend because you don’t seem to even understand what you’re fighting for anymore.
Screaming? I think you need a mirror. Didn’t you just switch your position on Mamdani and then accuse me of being AI, then call me friend, then tell me to sit out an election even as you claim to be appealing to Americans to vote out Republicans, and then say there is no point in voting at all because the state is already a lost cause?
You must not have any idea how much we are bombarded with day in and day out from people pretending to be Americans, and here we are talking about American politics with you using an unqualified “we” then getting upset when it is pointed out – and speaking like this:
If anything, the only role I do have in an American election is appealing to Americans not to put the lives and safety of my own people at risk by electing another Republican.
You personally have NO role in an American election, any more than I have a role in a Canadian election. If you cared at all about this you’d already know we got into this via foreign election manipulation, among other things, and a president openly working for Russia.
You even insist you are “appealing to Americans” to vote out Republicans by concern-trolling the sole non-Republican who can win in that primary, and then doing it in English that sounds like you just stepped off the transporter in Star Trek: “the lives and safety of my own people.”
“The lives and safety of my own people,” lol. What a strange “we” you have. And now you don’t want us to vote at all:
there is no point in voting at all the state is already a lost cause.
What the hell are you even trying to say?
You personally have NO role in an American election, any more than I have a role in a Canadian election.
That’s never stopped you before. Your people are trying to manipulate one of our provinces into a separation referendum right now. It’s awfully rich of you to start complaining now about foreign interference given that’s been your country’s primary MO world wide for over 100 years. Stop sending advertising up here demanding our vacation dollars and selling your useless products if that’s your attitude. The governor of Maine seems very upset in their Canadian TV ads that we’re not visiting, and doing everything in her power to convince us to come back, maybe you should tell her to mind her own business before you start telling us to mind ours.
I said that if Platner turns out to be another Fetterman, than Maine is a lost cause. He would, in fact, be worse than Collins because he’d be living proof there is no viable alternative. You’re getting a Republican either way, whether you vote D or R. We had both better hope that those warning signs are a tempest in a teapot, because if not then democracy is truly dead in that state. Hopefully that’s clear enough for your American reading comprehension. I didn’t change my position on Mamdani. I said his actions backed up his words. Did you look at any of his campaign ads? He didn’t have any legislation to show his sincerity, so he worked hard to demonstrate that he was committed to building the community, to listening to the concerns and needs of the people he was running to represent, and show that he was committed to following through on his promises, even the ones that were going to be a hard sell. You want to make sure people vote for Platner, up-sell his community engagement. Or don’t and keep telling everyone to piss off in every direction.
Let me start by saying Fetterman is bad, and PA deserves better. But looking back on the election it still seems like the voters made the best choice available at the time.
There are good reasons to be uncertain about Planter, but he seems unlikely to be quite as bad as the current situation.
But looking back on the election it still seems like the voters made the best choice available at the time.
And it was the choice because Fettermam won a primary.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, warnings of a candidate’s issues may not show up until after a primary. Digging up dirt requires resources, and those can be hard to come by until a candidate is considered serious.
At which point voters are locked into choosing between the two viable candidates (assuming first past the post, which I’d have to double check how much Maine fixed their voting).
Maine Senate Primary is ranked choice, people can vote their conscience, unlike the recent gubernatorial jungle primary California had.
Thank you. My point was to point out there are legitimate reasons to be concerned. A big problem is the “Best choice” of live hand grenades to drop down your pants is still not a great list of options. Fetterman is the worst of all worlds. A Republican wearing a D on his name tag undermines the credibility of the whole party, and quite frankly, the Democrats don’t have a lot of credibility left to burn. Electing another Fetterman is worse than electing Collins because not only will you still not get the representation you deserve, but no one is going to believe your platform is worth the paper it’s printed on next time either. That’s the gamble here. If there’s even the vaguest appearance of lack of commitment, people are going to just walk. “You don’t have another option” isn’t good enough for anyone anymore.
So show that he lives by the principles he talks about. Elevate his community work, elevate his union work, give people a reason to believe he believes in what he’s saying. And god help us all if he’s the wrong pick because this is the absolute last shot. If the Democrats fail to get their house in order now, there won’t be a “Next Time” to concern ourselves with as far as I can tell.
Them, acting like Nazis and pointing fingers:
Ok, so I think I see the issue here: you don’t know what a Nazi actually is.
Centrists and authoritarian leftists are scary man. We’ve got terrorist rape-ublicans to deal with already.
https://lemmy.ml/post/48239454
https://mander.xyz/post/53015076
Meanwhile, they really didn’t like that I’ve actually read Marx and Lenin and used it against them
https://lemmy.zip/comment/26868546
And this feels like the best image to describe it so far.
twitch
Label your axes
twitch twitch
They’ll post all that and then defend Mao, Stalin, and Putin.
Hey look it’s both sides plus the no true Scotsman in one picture!
Both sides declares all positions equivalent. The stethoscope explicitly doesn’t as it identifies authoritarianism as a shared mechanism while maintaining that ideological content and material outcomes differ by adding an additional axis.
No true Scotsman excludes inconvenient examples by redefining categories. The model explicitly includes authoritarian leftists as an additional category.
You’ve named two fallacies without demonstrating either one. Reading comprehension would help more than parroting pattern recognition without understanding. That’s even worse than AI reasoning.
Polly want a cracker?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The elites are my enemy and they are doing everything to make sure he doesn’t get elected. Voting literally costs you nothing. It seems obvious. Are the Platner haters even real people? Are they even from Maine?
There’s a lot we don’t know, and a chance we’ll find out all about it. I do, however, know these two things. One, Platner is almost certain to be the Democratic nominee. Two, short of revelations involving murder, rape, or a taste for child pornography, Platner needs to be backed by Democrats to the hilt. That may seem like a really low bar, and maybe it is. But I’m less interested in his personal life than I am in Collins’s public one, because that’s what really matters here.
So let us now return to the question of Collins’s week. The Senate cast a bunch of votes last week. And Collins did what she always does when she’s up for reelection—she voted with the Democrats on the ones people pay attention to, and as a Republican on the others.
There’s not another option. Platner is incredibly popular - outfundraising the sitting democrat governor! - and vocally supports some progressive causes.
Susan Collins has consistantly voted with our fascist regime while pretending she’s a moderate. She needs to go.
The effort and money the regime is focusing against Platner shows how much of a threat they see him as. He does need to win, and opponents of our fascist regime shouldn’t be listening to the regime’s attempts to defeat him.
It’s pretty amazing he can have so little come out against him, allegedly, that he was “physically threatening” (I.e. he never was physically abusive) and he had some raunchy texts and people even consider voting for the party of a felon and Epstein child rapists.
Propaganda works.
It’s fucking surreal. Donald Trump is a rapist, who appears in the Epstein files thousands of times. He’s on camera bragging about sexual assault. About this, apparently nobody gives a shit.
Meanwhile a Democrat has some women come out of the woodwork saying he was kind of a mean drunk and yelled sometimes. And now America is going to pretend like couples don’t fight. Oh me, oh my, this man once got into a passionate argument! Somebody find me a new set of pearls, because the ones I’ve been clutching have mysteriously turned to dust.
I think it was literally over a million times
blackwater mercenaries who joined the marines to kill muslims, got a nazi tattoo, and SA women never need to win.
he ain’t even progressive; he’s pro gun and wants to make the army bigger.
In a very well-sourced line, Wikipedia says,
In 2018, Platner returned to Kabul, Afghanistan, for about six months as a State Department security contractor with Constellis, where he provided diplomatic security to the US Ambassador to Afghanistan.
As much as I hate Blackwater (Constellis is the new name) not everyone that works for them is a mercenary, and what Platner did doesn’t even come close to meeting the definition of mercenary:
A mercenary (/ˈmɜːr.sə.nɛr.i/, MUR-sə-nerr-ee) is a private individual who joins an armed conflict for personal profit, is otherwise an outsider to the conflict, and is not a member of any other official military.[1][2] Mercenaries fight for money or other forms of payment rather than for political interests.
If you really want to know what you’re talking about, follow those linked sources [1] and [2] out: the word mercenary is not just a slur you throw at someone, it’s something that has been well definied since the end of WWII. Graham Platner doesn’t even come close.
Imagine defending literally anyone lacking in morals enough to do any fucking job at Blackwater.
I don’t care if all you do is answer the phones (and let’s be clear, Platner was a certified killer by the time he started working there, he wasn’t picking up fucking phones and I think you know this)
I don’t care if all you do is answer the phones (and let’s be clear, Platner was a certified killer by the time he started working there, he wasn’t picking up fucking phones and I think you know this)
No, I absolutely don’t know this. I don’t even understand what you think he’s done that differentiates him from any other US Marine and/or military contractor with combat tours under his belt.
Here’s what Wikipedia says:
Born and raised in coastal Maine, Platner enlisted in the Marine corps after graduating from high school. He served eight years, including three combat tours in Iraq as a Marine and one in Afghanistan with the Maryland Army National Guard. After his military service, he worked as a State Department security contractor in Afghanistan before returning to Maine and entering the oyster farming business. From there, he took over an operation in 2020, and became active in local government before announcing his candidacy for the U.S. Senate in August 2025.
In 2018, Platner returned to Kabul, Afghanistan, for about six months as a State Department security contractor with Constellis, where he provided diplomatic security to the US Ambassador to Afghanistan.
Everyone who has ever been on a combat tour for any military anywhere is a “certified killer,” lol. And he posted to Iraq the year AFTER the Abu Ghraib tortures were revealed, so that’s going to be a hard sell for me too.
These days he’s loudly against pointless and endless wars, so it doesn’t sound like he still wants to kill people. He’s also for unions, universal healthcare, anti-billionaire, anti-money-in-politics, and kind of surprisingly well-acquainted with US history and the politics of the New Deal.
So, you got anything more than how you personally think he wasn’t just answering the phones for the US Ambassador to Afghanistan? If you do, and I mean this sincerely, bring it. Not just conjecture, but something more than a Jolly Roger tat and nastified military slurs that imply being anything worse than the average grunt.
I should add, speaking solely for myself, that you missed the most obvious thing.
If you REALLY want me to hate the guy, just call him Susan Collins.
Breathlessly defending literal Nazis because they said nice things about socialism.
Fucking pick me losers
Breathlessly defending literal Nazis because they said nice things about socialism.
Fucking pick me losers
So you got absolutely nothing more substantial than a lame ad hominem, lol.
I didn’t think you did: speaking of “fucking pick me losers” you’ve been populating these Platner threads with a lot of insulting but empty one- and two-liners that have neither substance nor fact but clearly make you feel better, and your response to me was just as worthless.
So you were ignored, and Maine did pick him. He easily won the primary. Now you have until November to try to convince people to vote for the rotting, stinking, corrupt, useless dinosaur carcass that occupies the office now. “Fucking pick me loser” indeed.
Speaking of Collins, definitely tell me who else you support so I can make sure I steer well clear come November, lol.
“Nothing more substantial”
Dude had it tattooed on his fucking chest.
As I have said several times, if I were in Maine, I would be voting for him in the general. But I will not ignore massive massive red flags just because he said good things about socialism.
Have some fucking standards.
To be fair, I only learned what a totenkampf is by reading these comments. I do know a few Nazi symbols more than just the swastika too
It’s like the third most popular Nazi symbol
According to?
Well, for one, Wikipedia has it listed second on their list of Nazi symbols: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_symbolism
The word totenkampf doesn’t appear once in that page
Curious as to what you think the word means in German…
Try reading and maybe learning something instead of just doing Ctrl+f to see if a word appears or not
That’s true, but I’m guessing that you haven’t had it tattooed on your chest for 18 years.
I’m sure you’ve seen the totenkopf symbol before plenty of times, in a nazi context (are we the baddies, literally every wwii movie ever made, literally every wwii video game ever made, anytime you saw an ss costume). And none of those times you would’ve recognized it for the thing you see every morning when you brush your teeth. Because if it was, all those times would be a lot more memorable to you.
You probably never went to the public beach or pool with your friends, and had someone ask you if you know what that thing on your chest means. Because in a situation like that, you will find out what the totenkopf is.
I feel like people who think you can spend 18 years of your adult life wearing a nazi tattoo on your chest without ever learning that it’s a nazi tattoo suffer from a severe lack of empathy.
Wow four paragraphs, many tokens
What a cogent and convincing counterargument to the point I made. Well done!
Wasn’t a counter argument, was simply a comment. I don’t disagree with you actually
Then why the snarky token/llm shit? I don’t burn forests to have fancy autocomplete write down thoughts for me, and I resent the accusation that I would do so.
Woman who accused Biden of sexual assault seeks Russian citizenship
Wow that was all the way back in . . . 2023
Really weird to bring up on an article that has nothing to do with Biden.
Not so weird, it’s pointing out that the fascist regime and their russian allies are absolutely willing to cook and stoke rape allegations as part of their disinformation campaigns.
I don’t know how they manage it, but the democrats always have a knack for stacking the odd against themselves.
Trump, an easily defeatable buffoon in 2016 and 2024, with a huge career-ending legal and moral baggage that normally would have caused any voter with an IQ above that of a turkey to reconsider, won because the democrats somehow managed to pit the absolute worst candidate imaginable against him both times.
This is more of the same. Platner will lose. Because democrats.
Trump, an easily defeatable buffoon in 2016 and 2024
He wasn’t easily defeatable.
He was a wealthy, popular, fascist candidate running with the wind at his back thanks to his wealth, fascist friends in media, banking, and tech.
Trump beat a litany of professional politicians in his own party. Then he ran neck and neck with the liberal challenger three times, because he was actually very savvy and very well-connected and not easy to beat at all.
Democrats treated him like a joke twice and lost both times. They took him seriously once and barely eeked out a win in a wave year.
Platner will lose.
For all Platner’s sins, he appears to be both popular and exactly as fascist as Americans like to see in a politician.
Now the only question is whether he can beat Collins’s money machine.
I want Platner to win because at least there’s a chance he’s not a fascist.
I honestly hope it’s all bullshit, but I’m not going to just ignore red flag after red flag. I’m not going to turn my fucking brain off just because this guy paid some lip service to socialism or whatever.
I want Platner to win because at least there’s a chance he’s not a fascist.
I wish there was a better choice than 100% fascist or hopefully-not-fascist in the US…
Yeah that would be nice
Well said. I will vote for the least likely to be a fascist candidate every time and between those elections work towards getting a better candidate. Not every candidate is gonna be perfect. Bernie could have been more explicitly pro Palestinian for example but he also would have been a better Candidate than anyone else in the past 50+ years for president. Candidates are pieces on a game board. Not your friends.
that’s their strategy.
Conservatives can be the worst of the worst, democrats can then be terrible as long as they can say that they aren’t as bad as Republicans. they can sell the nation to billionaires in a more camera friendly way.
Not so much that. I felt relief, initially, when I saw she was running instead of Biden. And I liked Wahl. Whatever else he is, he is Midwest, and worth less than a million. Again, Midwest.
She started out fine. “We’re not going back” was a great byline. Then, some dipshit decided, about the time of the convention, to dump it because “We’re not going back” was too negative. The convention had “See something say something” which was weird.
Then, she would t say anything definitive about working class just identity politics.
Then, she started palling around with moderates and Cheney. She had it at the opening. Lost though being the same old shit.
. In terms of voting, a bunch of people thought Palestine would be helped by not voting for her. Now, there is no Palestine. Would it have been different? The world will never know. Palestine will never know because it doesn’t exist anymore, and almost everyone is dead.
And some people thought, eh, it wasn’t that big of deal the first time, who cares?
And a wave of men thought they’d have a better chance at a liveable wage and dating women and establishing that most valuable of things (for some), a legacy (through kids), if maga was in charge.
MAGA lied, but they did make a bunch of promises of a better life to working class. People are desperate.
Instead we have a senile old man as president who keeps breaking everything while oligarchs and Vought run things.
But yeah, Bernie and Mamdani types are what they win on. It’s not that they don’t know that, it’s that they don’t care because they’re owned by oligarchs. As such, whomever the fuck oligarchs people are are the candidates we need.
No question. At this point and after primaries I view anyone not fully onboard with getting rid of Republican congress by voting Dem as being complicit with or maga themselves.
