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I made a blender model and animation of this thing I experienced to show how it looks like and moves, and to use that as a way to find out if someone knows what it is, where or why. I don’t know much more and am wondering what others know based on their encounters. It’s somewhere at some time, seems huge. The discs are flattish and don’t reflect light other than from the edges. I’ve tried posting in a few communities and get mostly aggravated answers, or overtly focusing on how I got this knowledge (almost like I’ve done something forbidden when it’s not an aspect I care about), and one got modded hidden.
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Look like a desk toy:
(Amazon link with video of it in motion)Alternatively, the thing from Event Horizon:
Desk toys try to simulate orbits around a thing but that movie effect does eerily have similarities. Not the most important details but behavior. Another one to add to the list ig
Yeah, this particular “orbiting circles” thing is somewhat common in sci-fi media, even the “it lines up and stops” part.
I think that’s likely why you’re getting negative responses. People look at your (neat) animation and go “oh, look generic sci-fi macguffin” but see you acting like you think it’s some sort of hidden or alien knowledge then think you’re a crackpot.
It’s funny how they act like they’re in a conspiracy movie
or overtly focusing on how I got this knowledge (it’s not an aspect I care about),
Because there doesn’t seem to be cosmic-scale object that looks like this. Epistemological aspect of this information is important, because it will inform us if it’s just mind playing tricks or a real phenomenon.
How did you acquire this knowledge?
Edit: Have you consulted with a doctor about this? Knowledge doesn’t just appear in your head. People usually read, watch or hear something and form new knowledge based on the experience.
Lol artists conduit stuff like this all the time and don’t need to see doctors about it. One could make a case that it’s like dreams connect different memories in your subconscious to process them to build a new connection. Or how problems get solved at work, gather enough context and one day you’re doing something else and it all clicks. It’s a normal thing, you just probably don’t recognize it as well.
The important distinction is when artists “conduit” stuff like this, they can easily discern fact from fiction; reality from fantasy. When they imagine a spaceship or an alien they know that those things aren’t real.
A doctor would help you asses if you have trouble, differentiating thoughts that are based on reality and those that aren’t. Human minds are little shits that lie, and some people have trouble seeing past those lies. Doctors have devised methods to help those people.
Well all through humanity’s history there’s knowledge that “imagination” molds “reality” so the difference is do you make a fantasy story of a truth you received from creativity etc etc
There’s no trouble here, it’s not like schizophrenics hearing sounds that aren’t there or seeing stuff interacting with the current matrix environment they’re in or how DMT folks travel to whatever domains.
Just the similar thing where you remember where you left your keys
There’s no trouble here
Schizophrenia has pre-halucination phase that isn’t that severe. As I love all humans I am concerned about your wellbeing. As they say prevention is better than cure. I would love for you to seek a doctor and get a diagnosis that there is nothing wrong with you, than for you to end up couple of years from now in mental facility.
Thanks for your concern, my health in all aspects has been cleared. Only aging joints lol
When artists imagine new things, they don’t generally ask people what those things are as if they must be a thing that really exists in the real world.
The animation you created does resemble something I’ve seen in, I think, a sci fi movie (I don’t recall which). I’ve also seen, in real life, small desktop models resembling this (again I can’t point you something specific, but I’m picturing it in brass). It reminds be somewhat of an astrolab, like https://p.turbosquid.com/ts-thumb/lT/AyGkQ1/TldU6igf/screenshot007/png/1546795156/1920x1080/fit_q87/55f4c2758f661655600a70a3859a1a46059d73cd/screenshot007.jpg but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen something that more closely resembles your animation.
It reminds me of the ftl core in “event horizon” it also throws the ship through hell (literally).
Also, I believe the jump ships in Foundation have these for their jump cores or whatever.
There’s also at least one of these in the Elder Scrolls video games.
Its a common set of rings designed artistically to represent a complex, and practically magical object. Likely inspired by things like an orrery and other objects designed to track the orbits of the planets of our solar system.
Asking is probably not usual. Some scientists do their thesises through seeing the result first. It’s different to imagine something internally than to “go to”/“get” something else, the latter being something that someone else knows as well rather than self-born. Although I guess one could expand to the thought that everything internal ultimately is everything external yada yada
I wouldn’t say it’s “conduiting” or whatever. I visualise stuff and then take a whole pile of steps to turn that into something. Sometimes it’s like an epiphany but I’m not of the belief that it’s something just being inserted into my mind.
This is exactly like the spinning mechanism at the end of 13 Ghosts. I’ve always thought it was pretty. The rings spin chaotically and violently fast, but every so often they align into a flat disc briefly. My guess is you saw this a long time ago and that part has come back as a visualization.
Haven’t heard of that. Adding to the watchlist thanks. Maybe someone in the credits got that somewhere
This is actually forbidden knowledge. You shouldn’t have seen it, not sure why you have. It’s a self reinforcing recursive spiral fractal graph, the key to free energy from water. If you put it in a car, it can drive 1000 miles on just 1 gallon of water. Big tech and the capitalists doesn’t want you to know, so they probably did something to delete it from your memory. I’m surprised this post stayed up so long, maybe MOSAD has no eyes on Lemmy yet?
Nah. Good one but no
Gyroscope?
That has been mentioned a couple of times in the other communities and I see the analogy. I can’t tell if the size is of a space station or a moon or a planet. What would it be gyroscoping
What you have animated in a gimbal. Gyroscopes are often mounted on gimbals to demonstrate how they resist changes to their axis of rotation. This is why many people associate gimbals with gyroscopes. I guess many people don’t know the term gimbal, or have forgotten it.
Anyway, as I said in a top-level comment, you should look up “gimbal lock” which is what happens when all the rings of the gimbal end up in the same plane.
Replied to your other comment. Thanks interesting
The movie contact
Ok multiple times now heard this. Maybe I gotta take a look thx
Or Avengers: Infinity War where Thor restarts the forge. Or the Super Mario Galaxy movie. Or any number of science fiction movies or TV shows.
Yeah pop culture has definitely pulled inspiration from the same source.
Did I scroll to the end of lemmy? What is this place
Have you seen it at the end of the universe?
Look up “gimbal lock”.
Yes that is actually similar. What would more discs than 3 spatial axii mean in this case? The blender object has something like 7 but I’m not sure if it’s the correct number. More than x, y and z axii definitely tho.
What could lock into the middle is another question. The sense of scale of it feels huge, like anything between a space station and a planet
The same thing can happen with 4, 7, or 100 rings. If they are allowed to “flatten out” to a single plane, you get gimbal lock, no matter how many rings there are. However, more rings don’t actually give more degrees of freedom. 4 rings are enough to provide all degrees of freedom plus guarantee that you never get gimbal lock, but only if you ensure that the innermost and outermost rings are perpendicular to each other at all times.
As for the “meaning” behind it, sense of scale, or whatever you might be feeling, I have nothing to say. Gimbals can be built in all sizes.
Ah gimbal lock is the alignment phase? Thanks for the clarification
Yes, and it’s generally a bad thing.
Oh that I didn’t get from skimming Wikipedia. Because of a loss of freedom/control or am mistaking the concept?
I didn’t understand the timing of why these discs align so it’s not accurate in the animation but it seemed cyclical/mechanical/mathematic, like a pulse towards various different directions
Gimbals might be free-spinning or driven by motors, it depends on what they’re used for, what their purpose is. Either way though, they usually don’t move all that much, it’s just shown in animation for demonstration purposes. (And in sci-fi because it’s cool.)
For example, there are camera gimbals which are designed to keep a mounted camera steady while the gimbal is held by a shaky human. In that case the gimbal only rotates as a counter-reaction to the rotation of the handheld part. If you have a steady hand, the gimbal would hardly move at all.
I should note that camera gimbals don’t look like those fancy rings, but mechanically they do the same thing.
I can’t tell you any more than that (frankly that’s all I know), but since you seen interested you should take your time to read up on it and watch YouTube videos about it.
appreciate it thanks. I’m familiar with camera gimbals and such as a steadying tool, but didn’t connect that topic with whatever this is.
Hi. I’ll be your “that guy” today. It’s “axes” pronounced “ax-eez”, not “axii”.
explanation
“Axis” is from Greek, and the general rule is that singular “-is” becomes “-ēs” in the plural, which happens to apply here. We don’t usually write the overline when it’s adopted into English, so “axes”, but with a Greek-derived pronunciation.
The rule you’re thinking of is that Latin “-ius” usually becomes “-ii”, but Latin or not, there’s no “u”, so we should avoid using that rule here.
I was rewriting the word so many times I couldn’t trust the word in any form anymore :D
Semantic Satiation
This looks kinda like an orrery
Someone else also commented that. Or a representation of rings that orbit around something.
But the key difference here is that the center is distinctively empty, it’s somehow important. The rotating shapes are flat discs probably with mass, lot rings. Their planes are non-reflecting void and the edges reflect as “rings” from the light source
This should be in nostupidquestions.
It was and got modded
I know it was a crucial part of the seminal 1997 Robert Zemeckis film “Contact”
Hmmm that movie has been calling me for a while
Watch it, it’s one of my favorites. Jodie Foster kills in it. So good.
I recall some parts of it maybe from clips. I guess this thing is similar to the effect she enters or something? I remember it being closer to the sphere thing at the end of Annihilation.
Gotta check it out soon
Let’s just say it’s a mechanical device. Otherwise it’s too much of a spoiler. 😅
I don’t know what this is, but it spooks me and man–I’d love to see it at scale. What are your impressions of it?
It has a spooky presence and for some reason it’s also quite mundane.
Ah, one of my favorite ways to exist! Hope you find some answers.
Hmmmmm
ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for cupcakes.
Don’t really like them
reminds me of up/up/down positions of quarks.
Ok this is very interesting because quantum stuff ties into everything
Kind of reminds me of the instability of the solar system.
