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    I’m not saying I don’t like Bush but it’s a little silly to call me ungrateful after the whole Iraq and Afghanistan debacle.

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    People should just find people they’re sexually compatible with. No one owes you anything, and you don’t owe anyone anything. Just do whatever you want with consenting adults. I don’t understand why this concept is so fucking hard? You don’t like bush, cool, don’t sleep with someone who has one. You like to have a bush? Cool, don’t sleep with someone who doesn’t like it. Simple as that people. No one decides what they like and what they don’t. You can’t force someone to like your body, so why even bother? There’s plenty people out there who likes you the way you are.

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      You don’t like bush, cool, don’t sleep with someone who has one.

      Should this conversation happen prior to the encounter, then?

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      This is the real answer. I mean some compromise is normal and healthy in a relationship, but for the most part everyone just do what you are comfortable with and find people who are good with that

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        Yep and if people at large could stop commenting on women’s body hair publicly, then everyone could be even more focused on finding people they are compatible with <3

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      This is about people who go out of their way to comment on typically women’s bodies or go out of their way to leave hate comments to women online for having body hair.

      This is in the intro of the video.

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        I’m mostly refering to some of the comments in this thread. A lot seem to take it very personal that some people might not be into the same thing they are.

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      Umm, I do, in fact, decide what I like or don’t like. That’s true for everybody. But I don’t decide what you like, and vice versa. So the issue is still that you can’t decide for other people what they’re into.

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        How does that work? Especially given the context. As I’ve understood attraction and what one likes about the other person aren’t really changeable? I’m genuinely curious how can that be changed or decided?

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            And still, hows that supposed to change what one likes?
            Of course i can consciously decide to override likes and preferences, but that still doesn’t change those. It will still be conscious decision every time.

            And giving the current context of sex. As I’ve understood, we aren’t supposed to force that? Like we don’t go up to someone who’s gay and say why don’t you decide to like women, of course some do, but we’re not supposed because those likes aren’t supposed to be changeable.

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      This is the answer in a pragmatic sense, in our day to day. It works, it’s fine. The thing is our tastes are not 100% natural and spontaneous, they can be influenced by context, and that context can be problematic. So the extra step these discussions are asking us to do is beyond the pragmatic or useful day to day advice you gave. It is questioning why we have those tastes. “Why don’t I like natural cis women?”, “Why am I not attracted to black people?”, “Why do I refuse to date trans guys?”. Etcetera. If we find it is not because of prejudices, societal expectations, 'must be’s from unequal societies, or anything like that, then it’s an unfortunate coincidence but we can move on. But if we find something like that (those things I listed), it is not necessarily permanent, I think most of the times it can be worked on, changed, and these discussions are also an invitation to do so.

    • Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      There’s plenty people out there who likes you the way you are.

      Hahaha, good one 😂

      … now I’m sad 😔

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      Here’s my approach to this, as a dude:

      I mean, really I don’t have a broad preference for or against bush at all…

      … but, if you want me to smooch things down there, please tidy up a bit.

      I just don’t like having a mouth full of hair.

      Don’t worry, I will tidy up too, for the reverse scenario, if partner also dislikes mouthful of hair, and! … this also applies to my facial hair… I’m not that attached to it, and it will grow back, if you want to smooch my face but don’t like the beard/stache.

      Maybe I am lucky in that I at least I think I look decent both with or without a beard/stache.

      This is to me completely fair and reciprocal, and … really is not that conplicated.

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    My partner will grow everything out, full pits, full bush and I’m like “Yes! so sexy!” Then she’ll decide to shave everything and I’m like “awwww yeah!”. Then back to the bush and I’m again stoked. She’s beautiful and sexy no matter what.

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    Funny thing. Heard Stormy Daniels run down how the shaved look happened.

    Back in DVD days, a porn star could hit the road and tour a lot of strip clubs. She could sell a lot of merchandise and make herself well known. The problem was that a lot of these clubs were in small towns where the cops loved harassing the dancers. A lot of places had laws that said that visible pubic hair was illegal, so a lot of dancers shaved, and they encouraged the porn stars to do the same.

    When the shaven ladies got back to shooting, they kept on shaving. Pretty soon that became the standard look in movies and magazines.

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      With full respect to Ms Daniels I think it predates DVDs. My first sight (and many others I suspect) was an actress by the name of Seka who was shaving in the 70s and possibly earlier. As she tells it she was an early innovator in glamming up porn with good hair and makeup. Shaving was part of an exotic look.

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          Fair. And it’s true that I haven’t watched all the porn that out there, but it was my first sight of naked pudendum. I’m confident it wasn’t the first ever. But the 60s and 70s were known as big bush era.

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            I grew up in the '70s and volunteered at the local recycling center, so I had a collection of literally every porn magazine from back then - Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Oui etc. etc. Multiple copies of each issue. Even weird high-quality stuff that showed actual penetration and cumshots and whatnot (big no-nos with the major publications at the time). Not a single bare bush in all of that stuff.

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        But it’s kind of like saying Elvis or The Beatles didn’t invent their signature hair styles.

        What Ms. Daniels said [and I agree with] is that a lot of porn stars started shaving around the same time and that filtered into the mainstream.

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          Again, fair. I haven’t read Ms Daniel’s comments directly. I can fully accept that there was something other than aesthetics driving the change.

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        What’s even funnier is that the question that prompted the story was something like ‘have you seen porn behavior filtering into the mainstream?’

        I think the interviewer was expecting something about clothes…

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      I hated the name Bush X.

      The 1990s British alt-rock band Bush was temporarily known as Bush X only in Canada. They were forced to add the “X” because a 1970s Canadian rock group named Bush (led by Domenic Troiano) already legally held the rights to the name in the Canadian market.

      Wikipedia

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    My policy is that if you want someone’s mouth to go there, you should shave it. This applies to all genders and hair features pretty equally.

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      I would disagree with your policy. Bush is a beautiful thing. Not only does it provide stunning contrast that perfectly frames their natural beauty, but it also acts as a pheromone diffuser. I love to have my nose resting on a soft bed of perfectly perfumed pillow bush while enjoying a hot meal.

      That being said, I am a vocal advocate of bodily autonomy so if they prefer no bush, that’s never a problem, but my personal preference is au naturale.

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      prefer something to nothing, but, a nice trim certainly makes going down easier when I don’t have to find the part lol

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    Well they are both war criminals who should be tried as traitors, and the whitewashing of their legacies is deeply shameful to say the least.

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    I mean, according to a research paper published by Brandeis University and its sources, the whole “women need to be shaved” thing was started by Gillette to sell razors, correlates with perceiving women as younger and a tendency to fetishise youth.

    Considering the evolutionary roots, men should feel attracted to female body hair, as it is a secondary sexual characteristic, such as breast size and waist to hip ratio, and hence a sign of sexual maturity and ability to procreate. […]

    Biologically, sexually mature females have body hair, but society has made femininity more connected to youth and pre-pubescence than to a woman’s ability to reproduce.

    So if you like them unshaved, that’s natural (but no longer normal). If you like them shaved, that’s normal (but not natural).

    And if you don’t like them at all, you’re lucky to sidestep that question.

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      It’s so weird when you see that specific subset of men (and to be fair, some women too) whining about how ‘body hair is unnatural for women’.

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        Right? It grows if you don’t do anything about it. That’s basically the definition of natural.

        If they don’t find it attractive, they could just say so. It’s a subjective taste. Stand by it.

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      Part the lips delicately with your index and ring finger, while your middle finger is inside. If you have two fingers inside (middle and ring), use your pinky instead. Your chin should be resting on your palm

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    Could we stop trying to resuscitate that man’s image? He was a war criminal just like every other president before and after.