I weighed 207 pounds when I was 7, I wish CPS had gotten involved
Hope youre doing better now. ❤️
Thanks! It’s a healing journey not a destination type of thing.
Were you like also tall for your age? I can’t even comprehend how that would look like. My dad is on a ozempic trip and lost a bunch of weight but still hovers around 100kg. Imagine that in a 7 year old body is crazy
How the fuck does a child even get to that weight. Like I’m five five with bone density high enough I borderline can’t swim in freshwater and the worst I’ve ever gotten to with my weight was 230. Was she weened off milk and skipped right to soda? The fuck.
Holy shit, neither of their children had been enrolled in school, the boy was only taken to see a doctor once in his entire life, CPS had never been out to the house, landlord wasn’t allowed in just picked up rent from the porch. No one knew these kids were there essentially.
Well at age 7 they would be entering first grade. The younger child is 5. It’s not good that these kids hadn’t been to any kind of school, but they were still on the young side of being required to. My take anyhow.
Seven is essentially 2nd grade. General rule is age minus 5.
omg “Age minus 5”
there have been times in my life where I’ve encountered children and I just… no idea what grade they’re in or supposed to be in. My ex-wife made fun of me once because of it.
I’m going to lock this little rule inside my brain and next time I encounter a child of known age, I’m gonna belt it out: “OH YOU’RE 10? HOW’S THE FIFTH GRADE?” and feel like a king
Also keep in mind thats usually when they start, so latter in the year it may be 6 difference.
IE, A High School senior (12th grade) starts at 17, but probably ends at 18.
Can also vary regionally. Grew up in Cali, basically everyone started kindergarten at 5 years old. Moved to Oregon during high school and everyone was almost a year older than me. Found out it’s because they generally started kindergarten at 6.
They were both school age. 5 years old is kindergarten.
These children were being hidden and no one was looking for them. It’s incredibly sad.
116kg for those that work in metric
Insane level of neglect
For people using imperial he’s just over 4’ tall. I have no idea how tall people are in inches saying he’s “50.5 inches” wasn’t helpful to me either
At a hair under 130 cm.
Okay, I’m going to assert that BMI’s potential oversimplification of a few edge cases doesn’t matter here when I point out that this child had a BMI of seventy.
BMI is a bad, outdated method. But it was used for a reason, which is that it serves as an ok rule-of-thumb for white boys
It’s fine as an arbitry metric used to evaluate the same population over time.
It can be used to locate/relativise an individual member of that population within that same population.
It can’t be used to simply define any given individual in isolation. But it still is.
Such an extreme outlier is still a valid evaluation in the case though… but only in that the BMI value is extreme, not it’s specific value.
Poor kid never had a chance at life.
Healthcare likely would’ve responded, as mandatory reporters. What’s unknown is if the parents avoided the doctor because they knew this or were simply too poor to see a doctor. Not seeing a doctor, with current insurance rates, and the proposal that insurance companies start loan shark in those buying insurance from them, how is this surprising in any context?
Flint MI is a very poor city, on average. Pre2020 you could buy houses for $10k. Now, per the DuckDuckGo AI bot, the average house is $65k. Median household income $33k. And there was the lead in the main water supply not so long ago, not helpful to any of this.
From the article:
Leyton said the father has a good job and the family has real health insurance. The morning the child died, they even called their veterinarian to have their dog treated.
FFS. The dog gets care while the child’s heart explodes under its burden?
It says in the article that the father has a good source of income, and the family has good health insurance. So money and insurance is not an issue. This is pure negligence on the part of the parents.
That also doesn’t surprise me.
“good health insurance” does that mean marketplace insurance or is it actually “good health insurance”? it’s seems like that leaves a lot open to interpretation.
True. But if your seven year old is morbidly obese and probably showing symptoms of wider health issues, and you have some form of health insurance for the family (which is inferred by the article), you take them to the doctor more than once in their life and get them checked up. If you don’t you are a horrible and negligence parent.
Preventative healthcare for children is free in the US for the most part.
What the fuck
…how…? Like, seriously, how is that even possible? That’s bonkers.
Sugar
Sounds less like an unhealthy diet and more like force feeding, honestly.
I don’t necessarily mean to defend the parents because I don’t have enough information, but as others have mentioned, maybe they were too poor to see a doctor. Are we sure the child didn’t have a rare disease like Prader-Willi syndrome? Our society (and social media) are too quick to judge others based upon limited facts and context. Just saying.
I came here with your very point in mind, and then I read this sentence from the article:
Leyton said the father has a good job and the family has real health insurance. The morning the child died, they even called their veterinarian to have their dog treated.
This seems to be a clear case of medical willful neglect. If my kid was that big, (assuming I was feeding him healthy food,) I’d be at the DRs wanting DNA tests, getting a nutritionist, enrolling my kid in activities they like where they can be physically active. My niece has had feeding difficulties now that she’s been switched to solid foods, she’s underweight, and my sister is working with pediatricians and psychologists to determine if the insane pickiness is being caused by her being on the spectrum. I have a PhD in neuroscience, and based on the time spent with my niece she had clear behaviors that indicated she might be autistic/autistic adjacent like repetitive speech, severe introversion, and hiding when she is overstimulated/stressed. I was the first one telling my sister and brother in law to get her baby checked.
If the child had been going to school, a teacher or school official could have dropped the dime to CPS if they thought something was wrong.
The information you are lacking is in the article you are commenting on.
Leyton said the father has a good job and the family has real health insurance. The morning the child died, they even called their veterinarian to have their dog treated.
“None of these kids even existed in the eyes of the government. CPS had never been out there, nobody knew about these kids, they had not been to school”
They need to do a karyotype before charging the parents with murder. Think about how hard it would be to get a 7 year old to eat enough to weigh 255 lbs. I’m not denying they’re not negligent but if the child has Prader-Willi you think they should still be charged with murder?
The child died in November of last year. They waited until now to file charges. I’m guessing it was to ensure they had all the facts.
Yes, they should still be charged with murder. Any reasonable parent will see their kid gain so much weight and wonder if there’s something wrong with the kid and take them to get checked by a medical professional.
The child was only taken to see a doctor once in his entire life. Even if there is some rare disease causing the extreme weight, that’s still a lot closer to abuse than it is to neglegence.
