“There has been more of a transition where parents are supporting their adult children for longer,” she said. “The data do show that more young adult men live with their parents than women. The wealth transfer from older generations to younger generations is part of that story.”

And then there are the partners. “Almost everybody you talk to will have a story” about supporting an unemployed man, Ullrich said, adding that what’s changed isn’t the dynamic itself, but the fact that it no longer carries the stigma it once did. The stay-at-home boyfriend, once a punchline, is now a statistically significant labor market phenomenon.

A landmark paper published in the Journal of Political Economy, first circulated through the National Bureau of Economic Research, found that roughly 70% of the hours young men aren’t working are being spent on video games and recreational computer use. The economists calculated that improvements in gaming technology since 2004 alone can explain nearly half the increase in young men’s leisure hours.

“I think that’s part of the story — the basement story,” Ullrich said, in reference to a trope of young men playing video games in their parent’s basement.

The opioid epidemic compounded it, hitting non-college-educated men especially hard. And critically, men, compared to women, largely don’t qualify for government assistance programs like SNAP or TANF without a disability, meaning when they exit the workforce, the financial burden falls on whoever is closest to them.

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    And before you guys cry about the truth (since to half of you modern crazies ‘all men are evil because ‘they just are’’ ofc),

    You clearly didn’t read our comments here then. We’re supportive of men.

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      I mean, they said, “you guys”, not “OP”, but uh …

      … yeah, I’m all about “dude” and “guys” as gender-neutral, have no idea your pronouns, and don’t even remember what the Wild Feed community is supposed to be about just this moment. I’ll show myself out. As in, that’s the closest I’ve got to a contribution; I’m not packing my bags like “Surely” promised they are, no matter how much of my life I’ve spent as an unemployed moocher, and mad about it.

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        The other users here are well known for our feminism and for pushback from some lemmings because of it.

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          It shouldn’t amuse me as much as it does how they seem to believe they are scoring points by calling out pushback in advance. Looks like a self-own, in my book.

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            Why are you so afraid to interact with me directly lmfao weirdest users on this site I swear

            Yeah I’m getting owned by a bunch of emotional lemmings for sure bro faaak they got me good

            Now you’re insta downvoting me HAHA fucking emotions off the charts, cry more buddy

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              Why would I assume you were still here to reply if I did so? Here’s me apologizing for taking you at your word, Not.

              On a more realistic note, why would I encourage you to discredit yourself further by replying to me replying to you? The fact that you can’t understand that would benefit no-one, least-of-all yourself, only confirms I was right to approach things the way I did.

              Lastly, I’ve been a little busy watching Shimoneta, stuffing my face, and washing my laundry over the last 45 minutes to go “insta downvoting”. Even your average unemployed dude is apparently too busy with video-games for that level of loser-dom, but since you asked so nicely, I guess I can spare two or three downvotes on my way back to what I was doing.

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              The only one around here with feelings and not facts is you dude. You cite no sources, and just allow your feelings to create your comments, thereby allowing you to fall into multiple logical fallacies. You’re no Spock or Data, no matter what lies you tell yourself.

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        I originally made it for all the news sources the other major journalism coms kept removing. Now it’s just a lax news community.

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          I mean, “Wild Feed” spells it out nicely in my book, but what’s-their-face was just so vehement about “well known bias” or whatever other “obvious” non-sense, the only chill I’m taking for granted is my own lol.

          The way they ascribed it to “this site”, and pre-emptively denied anyone who might otherwise consider it the option of agreeing with any one of their points, seemed pretty obvious they were just fishing with non-sense to me. Kinda shit I might write if I were the one who secretly hated NEETs.

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            That was wild. I don’t usually get crash-outs over here in the quieter corner of political discourse. I hope they find their way out.

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        Originally dude is gender neutral. A dude is someone that knows nothing about living on a working farm or ranch. Hence the tourist traps called Dude Ranches that were popular in the early to mid 20th century.

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            I made the comment for the young’uns. One of the interesting things I discovered in Debate Club was that people watching the debate are swayed by calm rational arguments, and the crowd will side with the person that makes the most sense to them. In modern times many people have an inherent, though it may be tenuous, sense of logical arguments vs fallacies and deflection. This worked just as well, if not better, when I was accosted by proselytizing Christians on the sidewalk in downtown of multiple cities.

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      Nah this is my last day on this shithole website and you would not imagine the specimens I have interacted with on this website with my 2 accounts and how they’ve all collectively behaved to me, couldn’t care less anymore but if you’re normal and sane yourself then good for you pal, I would advise you to run from this place asap before you get slowly mindfucked by them and also end up in fantasy land yourself

      Had people unironically to the point of refusing to agree with me on the sky being blue lmao, emotional AF community of lemmings

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        It’s like any online forum type space. You gotta find your niche if you’re going to have a good time here.

        I’m sorry your experience has been frustrating so far.

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          That’s alright I’m a big boy I can take the internet words, just a waste of time to continue on this irrelevant softie platform so fuck it eh I’ll go out with a bang on here why not

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            Well, cheers I guess lol

            If you come back, I promise I’ll only argue about feminism and not the color of the sky hahaha

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            You’re no big boy. You can’t take a single amount of facts overriding your feelings, so you run away like the kindergatener that you never actually learned how to be. You don’t know the basic rules of society, which is why you have been so easily duped by the liars, thieves, and pedophiles, that run and own everything, and are scared now that we now KNOW, YOU/THEY AREN’T LIKE US. You support pedos, that means you’re a wannabe pedo.

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                Rational? yes. Calm and unemotional? not exactly. I swore an oath to Humanity, not just The Constitution to defend them both from all imminent threats, both domestic and foreign.

                Watching the people who are supposed to be in charge of things tearing down the fundamental bedrocks of the oldest democracy, and one of the oldest countries, on Earth that still exists in its original/current form, makes me want to start using the fourth box of democracy against the Epstien Class.

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                  makes me want to start using the fourth box of democracy against the Epstein Class.

                  You and me, both. Outside, I’m rational. Inside, I’m a swarm of murder hornets with my sights set on those perpetuating this hellscape. It didn’t have to be this way.

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        You just described what MSMSM has done to you. This place is a bastion of intelligence and research, you just don’t care about actual knowledge, just your feelings over facts.

        We don’t need or want you here if this is the type of behavior you are going to engage in and exhibit. We welcome debate. We do not welcome lies and logical fallicies, which are all the tools you have in your toolkit.