The Toronto Police Service (TPS) Hate Crimes Unit arrested and charged Ahmad Hassan Hajahmad with “participation or contribution to activities of a terrorist group”—namely Hamas.
  • breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
    30·
    13 days ago

    This source seems a bit sketchy. They publish news anonymously so no one in particular is responsible for it.

    I’m not taking a side on this but an important thing not mentioned in the article is that there is a court ordered publication ban about this case. The tone of the article is very, “well if there’s more to it why aren’t they saying anything?” They’re forbidden by law from saying anything more about it.

  • [object Object]@lemmy.ca
    15·
    13 days ago

    This seems like a waste of resources to deal with.

    Very obviously speaking at lawful protest is legal, I expect a judge to throw this out.

    Unless they have real evidence he collaborated with hamas.

    To be clear, hamas killed thousands of innocent people, I do not advocate for them, but that does not excuse Israel’s treatment of civilians in Gaza.

    • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      20·
      13 days ago

      Even if he did, Israel terrorists have killed way more people than Hamas ever has. But it’s fine and dandy to support Israel, according to the same government that’s prosecuting this poor soul.

    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
      8·
      13 days ago

      Oct 7 had less than 1000 civilian deaths btw, so not thousands. And i dont think they have killed enough before that to make it thousands. Just wanna stay accurate here.

      • [object Object]@lemmy.ca
        2·
        12 days ago

        Okay, fair, from Wikipedia

        • 195 civilians and security forces killed
        • 828+ civilians
        • 367+ security forces
        • 3,400 civilians and security forces wounded
        • 251 security forces and civilians captured

        But materially that doesn’t change things. Hamas specifically provoked a war this way. Then they did use civilian infrastructure for operations. They’re not innocent.

        But does that excuse the use of white phosphorous cluster bombs and levelling entire cities? No. Denying food aid? No.

        This war is incredibly asymmetric, the Hezbollah pager bombings show how deeply Israel has infiltrated these organizations operations. If they wanted they could have done this differently, even if it were more difficult.

    • mrdown@lemmy.world
      4·
      13 days ago

      The allies killed a ton more civilians during world war 2 intentionally yet we still pick up that side. Whatever you like it or not hamas still attack the israeli occupation forces making thrm a legitimate resistance group.

      The politization of terrorism is disgusting why no settler organization are designed as terrorist orgs in canada? Illegal land sale are performed in canada’s synaguoges freely

    • pentastarm@piefed.caEnglish
      2·
      12 days ago

      Unless this person was making crediable threats against specific people or places, then this is insanely overblown. Which, I mean tracks for Ford…

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    6·
    12 days ago

    Wow, another headline written to lead us down a garden path. Fuck this sensationalistic bullshit.

  • GrackleBirb@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    12 days ago

    Supporting Hamas and contacting Hamas is a totally different thing than merely supporting Palestinian rights. You can will and should cop a charge for the former but of course not the latter.

    • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca
      10·
      12 days ago

      But what is “contacting Hamas”? They’re still an administrative body. Did he contact the fire brigade? The health ministry? The law enforcement? The militant wing?

      That’s part of the smoke screen that Israel has thrown up when defining what Hamas is. It’s not just a paramilitary organization, it was the actual governing body of Gaza with several divisions that are far removed from the actual fighting.

      So when Israel says it’s killed 5 Hamas members, it actually killed traffic cops.

      Edit: Regardless, to keep in line with actual info from the article and the legal proceedings - the TPS basically followed him around due to his involvement in anti-genocide protests and supposed “hate speech” but wasn’t charged with that.

      They then contacted the counter terrorism office to conduct a raid on his home (mind you, still no charge) which they claim they found details of communication with a sanctioned group, which then applied the terrorism charge.

    • wpb@lemmy.world
      4·
      12 days ago

      I completely and utterly disagree. Both the notion of “supporting” and “terrorist” are so malleable and vague that legislation in this direction can be used to charge anyone for pretty much anything. As such, it has no place in a free and democratic society.

      First, the label “terrorist”. It should be obvious that terrorism is in the eye of the beholder. Were the resistance movements in WWII terrorists? Depends on who you ask. If you ask me, no. If you ask the nazis, obviously yes. Were the ANC freedom fighters defending themselves against the oppressive system of apartheid, or terrorists disrupting order? How about the folks at euromaidan? How about the elected government of Gazans that runs hospitals and food banks there (as governments do)? Terrorists, apparently.

      Then, there’s “support”. It conjures this image of shady people supplying scary men with crates of AK47s, or sending millions to swiss bank accounts which are then used to buy and develop dirty bombs. And then sure, that sounds like something that should be illegal. But what about treating a wounded “terrorist” in a hospital? Is that support? What about saying you agree with “terrorists”? (For example, I support the Warsaw uprising, I think they did the right thing) According to the UK, that counts! Saying you believe that Palestine action is doing the right thing is an act that is punishable by law there.

      The idea that “supporting” “terrorists” should be illegal is an absolutely indefensible position in a free society.