At this point I’m just tired of religion in general. I’m fine with discussing the histories and stories and art but outside of that just no
This isn’t fucking Facebook, don’t censor yourself
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck.
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck
Unfortunately, tolerating their delusions only encourages them.
- My religion says you can’t do that to me, but I can do it to you.
Kind of inevitable when they worship a god who is supposedly always right, yet evidently wrong and blatantly hypocritical. “Always right” obscures the hypocrisy, they twist themselves into knots trying to make it make sense instead of just admitting it is literal nonsense.
“That was the old covenant.”
So god was wrong then, realized it, and changed?
“Well no, you’re ignoring the context.”
Slavery and rape were socially acceptable, and omnipotent god didn’t want to rock the boat?
“We just can’t understand omnipotence.”
They somehow fail to acknowledge that if god is ALL-POWERFUL, literally anything that happens is because he chose it to happen.
“No, he gave us free will.”
If he’s all-powerful, there is no free will. He knew what we would do with it and chose to create us anyway. All of our choices are his choice. Also, what about times in the bible when god explicitly swayed someone’s mind? And why are we being punished for someone else misusing the free will?
The bible exists to normalize, even glorify, abuse.
I hope people everywhere stop tolerating death cults.
One of my all-time favorites: “no Jesus fulfilled the law so we don’t have to follow it anymore.” Oh so we can do whatever we want now, the laws are gone! Don’t worry about the ten commandments then.
What’s ironic is… that passage, Jesus is saying the exact opposite.
“Do not think I have come to abolish the law and the prophets I have not come to abolish it, but to fulfill it.” It goes onto say that the law is eternal, and won’t be changed and blah blah blah.
(The idea of the law being made to go away comes from the heretic, Paul, who realized that centipede were unlikely to convert if they had to get snipped as Jesus intended.)
Yes, lol. I don’t even understand that phrasing. He came to fulfill the old testament law? How does one fulfill commands about beating slaves? “Not one jot or tiddle will change… except all the changes I’m making. But also I’m unchanging because I’m god.” It frightens me when people assert that the bible contains no contradictions. It is a dangerous lack of critical thinking.
Jesus’s real message was “do as I say, not as I do, and maybe I’ll spare you my wrath.” And then he didn’t even say clearly what we should do. I like the golden rule. Jesus neither invented nor embodied it, he was a complete hypocrite according to the gospels.
Not one jot or tiddle will change… except all the changes I’m making. But also I’m unchanging because I’m god." It frightens me when people assert that the bible contains no contradictions. It is a dangerous lack of critical thinking.
It’s almost like the whole thing was made up by an assortment of self-appointed leaders who were trying to control other people’s behaviors.
It feels like Jesus and God are well, sepparate entities too.
“I know what my God demands of you”
But when questioned further
“God works in mysterious ways”
You’re bad at bible
Would you like to offer any arguments?
We will not accept fallacies or claims without evidence.
No one capable of thinking critically takes the bible seriously. It is a laughably stupid book that selfish, frightened morons use to cause real harm.
Then why is it the best selling book of all time?
If you’re so smart why are you 12?
Lol is this serious? You realize that just because a lot of people believe something doesn’t automatically give it a single shred of authenticity.
Theoretical question, if Harry Potter were to eventually sell more copies, would that make it more authoritative than the bible?
Yes, the free market decides
I didn’t know reality was so malleable as to be manipulated by belief.
Then why is it the best selling book of all time?
Remember when I said “We will not accept fallacies or claims without evidence”? The fallacy you just provided is called argumentum ad populum. Did you know that billions of people CAN all be wrong?
To answer your question, the bible is a useful tool for controlling the stupid masses. It’s a weapon, a cancer, aggressively pushed on us until we all choke on it.
If you’re so smart why are you 12?
I am 34. Check out my website. I wrote a song about the abuse your cult inflicted on me. https://snoopsqueak.com/
Twelve-year-olds with more intellectual integrity than you can identify the bible as a contradictory work of fiction.
Do you have any actual arguments, any specific responses to the points I have made? Or is this disconnected dumbassery all you have?
Man, you’re really committed. I appreciate.
E: some videos are a bit sad, I hope you get better soon
Thank you. I have tried four therapists, trying a fifth next week. I don’t see things getting better. Not enough people are acknowledging how fucked we all are. People like my parents pretend I brought my problems on myself, even though they made the choices to create me, hit me, lie to me, etc. Their death cult is currently occupying our government and rapidly dismantling years of progress. People are dying for their stupid greed, and people are pretending this is fine and normal and that I’m overreacting.
I think we might be fucked. I feel like my life and eventual death don’t matter in the slightest solely because no one is paying attention to what it means.
What’s my cult?
People who read Wikipedia’s list of fallacies page? We’re both in that.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction, but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history. But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
What’s my cult?
Are you telling me you’re stupid enough to defend a bible you don’t believe in? Did you… read it? Yahweh is a death god. Check my original comment. I made very specific arguments you still have not responded to.
The bible is for sure utterly contradictory and mostly fiction
It is a relief to hear you say so.
but there’s also some decent opinion based stuff and some fuzzy history.
It’s mostly deadly bullshit and outright lies. For example, the Exodus basically didn’t happen. No global flood. No 6-day creation. No resurrection. Jesus did not invent the golden rule, nor did he live by it.
But it’s one of humanity’s most important cultural artefacts, it’s still worth knowing something about.
I was raised on it, I know much about it. Hence my criticisms. Meanwhile, all you have offered is “you bible bad” with no explanation for how my interpretation is wrong or what you think would be better.
I have more dumbassery too, but you have to ration such valuable stuff.
Cute. People are dying for this shit.
No, actually you are - that & logic.
“Fuck off.”
Fixed it for ya.
You can’t say “fuck” it’s against my religion!
You can’t tell me not to say “fuck”, it’s against MY religion!
Look, I’m a member of your religion, and according to the strict interpretation, you can say fuck, but you can’t tell someone that you can or can’t say fuck.
And I may have just done that too.
Well fuck. I guess we’re both heathens then…
FUCK!
“My religion says I can’t get my kids vaccinated.”
“Fuck off.”
People’s kids are real people, not owned by their parents. Treating children as parental property or non humans is the foundation of a lot of problems with the world.
People ask me why I, an atheist, am so political about my atheism. The answer, of course, is, that it’s self defense against religion encroaching on my life via religious politics.
Don’t forget “Someone told me that my religion says you can’t do that!”
I Just realised something, I’ve never heard a Muslim telling anyon they can’t eat pork
Or draw the profit…oh wait
Not pork, but… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_in_Saudi_Arabia
Only in their country though.
Freedom from religion™
No person ought, or of right can be compelled, to attend any religious worship, or erect, or support any place of worship, or maintain any minister, contrary to the dictates of his conscience.
–Vermont Constitution, Article 3
Freedom from Sycophants, FFS.
“My Atheism says you can’t do religion”
And we’re full circle
Not nearly. Atheists generally don’t go around preaching their beliefs uninvited, while religious nuts are constantly virtue signaling before they even open their mouths.
Atheists are usually just fine with people believing in whatever deity they prefer, just so long as they don’t force their beliefs upon others. Guess what actually happens.
If you deny any of this, then you’re not even being honest with yourself, let alone any of us.
The sheer irony of this comment on this sub
The fact you leave such vague responses smacks of desperation to “win,” rather than engage in good… *ahem* …faith. You know you’re wrong, and are just grasping at straws in an attempt to feel smug.
Whatever gets you through your day.
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That’s not what freedom from religion is. It means I can practice my religion, but I can’t make anyone else follow it. If someone’s religion mandates others have religion then that’s when problems arise (and the atheists should win there)
Actually yes. You are dangerously ill, and need to be deprogrammed, like a drug user.
Username checks out
You left us no choice besides the warpath, I’m saying it openly
You mean a… Crusade?..
Yes, a Crusade! Once the governments normalize, we should just push for cult deprogramming like any other.
“My atheism says you can’t tell me to do religion.”
There you go.
And that’s how a few satanic religions popped up, that said to do the thing the other religion doesn’t want.
NAMBLA, too.
Hopped on the back of the LGBTQ movement and just started echoing all the grievances as an excuse for sexual assault.
Then religious extremists used their bad faith as a popular critique of the larger movement. And the next 30 years was this stupid argument about whether Teletubbies were a grooming gang.
When will we get rid of this right-wing artefact?
You forgot these: uc
A. Crowley with his Liber Al Vel Legis (Do what thou wilt, shall be everything of the Law): am I a joke to thou?
