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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

YouTube uses lower quality options on browsers running on Arm-based systems — misreporting as an x86 CPU appears to be a widespread browser fix

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YouTube uses lower quality options on browsers running on Arm-based systems — misreporting as an x86 CPU appears to be a widespread browser fix

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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Firefox on Linux appears to get punished for truthfully reporting 'aarch64' on Arm.
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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    this prolly wasnt a bad decision early on… why push something to a population who cant utilize it… but shit changes fast, google.

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      It seems somewhat damning that Google’s own browser had a workaround for this, though

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        was it ignorance or malicious intent?

        if it was a person, i would try and assume ignorance… im not sure google the company deserves such respect

        • villainy@lemmy.world
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          Or it’s a company so fuckoff huge that one department (Chrome on Android) couldn’t get a bug report escalated in another department (YouTube). Eventually they just put in a UA workaround while the bug rots in a backlog somewhere. Common enterprise bullshit.

          Or the Chrome on Android team didn’t even bother reporting the issue to YouTube and just threw in a cheap workaround. Also common enterprise bullshit.

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            Bingo. When I was a Chrome developer working on video stuff, we mostly treated YouTube like a separate company. Getting our stuff to work with theirs was a priority, but no more than, say, Netflix. We pretty much treated them as a black box that consumed the same API we provided for everyone.

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      The weirder thing is Firefox on ARM being detected as a HiSense TV. I did a cursory search to see if HiSense ever used Firefox OS on the TV and it doesn’t seem like it. Panasonic seemed to be the only manufacturer using it.

      • ericswpark@lemmy.ml
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        Could be that the developers for the HiSense TV just copy-pasted whatever UA into their browser codebase and called it a day.

  • Crit@links.hackliberty.org
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    YouTube is having a lot of totally not anticompetitive “bugs” in these past couple of weeks

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    UA sniffing again? What was it with feature detection and whatnot?

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    Does this include Apple Silicon Macs? That would be a bold move.

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      This issue was detected when running Firefox on Linux on Apple silicon. Firefox on Mac just identifies as x64.

      It’s probably not on purpose by YouTube. It’s stupid they put restrictions on some heuristics to begin with but maybe because otherwise people would think YouTube is not loading properly while it’s the software decoding on the not capable arm PC that can’t handle the resolution.

    • CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
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      Nope, my work Mac has 1080p\4K playback no problem.

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    Use piped

    • ButtCheekOnAStick@lemmy.world
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      They still have no app. Viewing anything on that site through your mobile browser sucks ass.

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        NewPipe for android

        • ButtCheekOnAStick@lemmy.world
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          Tried that, the interface wasn’t any better. Also, you couldn’t log into an account and get recommendations. I use Revanced extended.

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        Libretube

        • ButtCheekOnAStick@lemmy.world
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          Just tried it. Tried playing several videos, and the app just crashed every time. Plus, again, there is no youtube account sign in and a bad UI.

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            Not being identifiable is kinda the point of Piped, so an official YT login will never be a thing, I’d assume

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        Grayjay

        • long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works
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          no.

          Grayjay is proprietary. Use Newpipe, which is what Piped’s extractor is based on.

          • Dem Bosain@midwest.social
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            https://github.com/futo-org/grayjay-android

            Grayjay is open source.

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              Nope, the source code is available but it is proprietary software because the license forbids distributing modified versions, among other things

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                Shit, why source available then ? What are they trying to accomplish ?

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            Wait, it is? Thanks for the heads up !

      • kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social
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        Piped is based on NewPipe’s extractor.
        If you want an app it’s available on f-droid or with sponsor block on Izzy’s repo.

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      Thank God someone finally said something! There was probably a Lemmy user somewhere who hadn’t heard of it yet.

    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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      So many pipes! https://youtu.be/8g2KKGgK-0w?si=CmYDo3NBZdxgaBNR

      • PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocksB
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        Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

        https://piped.video/8g2KKGgK-0w?si=CmYDo3NBZdxgaBNR

        Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

        I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

        • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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          🎼 Pipe it up. Pipe it up. 🎶

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    Seems like my Samsung TV app is being hit by stuff too, I had 5 unskippable ads and can’t seem to get stable 1080p at 60fps any more despite gigabit fibre and cat6. Meanwhile getting 4k on my YouTube app on Android on WiFi.

    Go figure.

    YouTube is so desperate to fight this war that they’re harming legitimate watchers meanwhile my rockpi running Android TV seems to keep running sTube just fine.

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      The nic on TVs tend to be awful. I can barely break 100mbps on my lg wired or wireless.

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        100mbps should be enough for a few 4K streams, and I imagine you’re not streaming more than one thing to your TV at any given time.

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          4k yes, 4k hdr is where it becomes limiting…from what I’ve read.

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            Perhaps, and I’ll readily admit my ignorance on this.

            That said, I doubt the HDR overhead would be any larger than the equivalent baseline SDR content.

            If my intuition is right, depending on other factors like compression you could still fit at least 2 streams on that bandwidth.

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    Repeat after me kids. It’s not an “oversight”, or “mistake”, or “bug”, or “misunderstanding”…

    IF

    IT

    KEEPS

    HAPPENING

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    Enshittification intensifies!

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    Does this apply to Windows on ARM as well, or is it just Linux specifically for some reason?

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      It’s a processor variable, not OS

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        That’s what I figured, but every article I’ve seen on this calls out Linux specifically. I’ll have to give it a try from my Surface Pro X when I get home and test.

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    Sounds like a raspberry thing

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