• buycurious@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    2 years ago

    I think it’s been a month, maybe two?

    You should read the post by Stamets about the move to get some more context about why the new community, if that interests you.

    • GroteStreet 🦘@aussie.zoneEnglish
      48·
      2 years ago

      While I enjoy the content, I subscribe to neither. Rest assured that anyone who has browsed Hot or Top 24h would sooner or later be made aware of the existence of TenForward. The spam quality content here tend to bubble up to the top. 🖖

    • Guy Fleegman@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      32·
      2 years ago

      Heh, of course he did. It takes a real big brain to kill a community where the only rule is “there are no rules.” A big, smooth brain.

      • Kelly Aster 🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.world
        12·
        2 years ago

        Hey, you’re the creator of the original r/risa back on Reddit! Yeah, it’s crazy how quickly the burrito truck tanked it…the exodus practically happened overnight! I found out about Ten Forward not 48 hours after Stamets created it, and by then 95% of the posters had already moved away from Risa. I’m sorry they killed your creation, it’s a real shame it had to happen over such stupid reasons.

        • Guy Fleegman@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          13·
          2 years ago

          I sure am, and thanks!

          Yeah, I am genuinely sad they killed it… but not all that surprised. I cut ties with that instance precisely because their moderation style is so opaque and capricious. It’s great to see the spirit of the place live on here.

          • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
            3·
            2 years ago

            Maybe next time divide the power of the instance between people. From there you could create some policies to handle issues.

            It seems like drama in community infrastructure is common. Its best to think ahead.

            Sorry about your instance though. I take it you didn’t buy the domain.

            • Guy Fleegman@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              5·
              2 years ago

              On paper, we did that. There are multiple admins and we laid out a mission statement and guiding principles to try and ensure everyone was on the same page.

              But at the end of the day, there’s one name on the domain registration and one person getting the monthly bill. When that person tells you “these other people are more important to the success of this instance than you are” following a disagreement on how to apply those guiding principles, there’s not much you can do but get out of Dodge.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      18·
      2 years ago

      The removed my posts asking people to post more because of “drama”

      I didn’t even know there was “drama” until recently. I like the idea of startrek[.]website but I don’t like the way its being run. They should do a voluntary shift change.

  • ramble81@lemm.ee
    39·
    2 years ago

    I noticed it switched when all the good Star Trek memes in my “all” feed switched from Risa to TenForward. Didn’t even know there was drama over on the other board until I saw the post. That’s one of the nice things about the fediverse, don’t like it, switch somewhere else and if the votes follow, everyone will see it.

    • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
      19·
      2 years ago

      I mean a good chunk of people left an entire site for various misgivings, if any mod has a power trip, the group of people willing to leave an entire site is likely also willing to switch a community if someones on a trip.

  • roscoe@startrek.website
    37·
    2 years ago

    Am I being deprived of Stamets’ memes because of some thin-skinned power-tripping douche mod?

    Time for a new instance. Any recommendations for a stable instance that federates with everyone (except for the worst, of course)?

    Edit: If anyone is confused, I meant to reply to this comment that links to Stamets’ recent rundown on the whole kerfuffle.

    Edit 2: I just learned something I’d like to share with anyone else that needs to know. If a user (Stamets, for example) is banned on your instance (startrek.website, for example) even here, a community on lemmy.world, you can’t see his posts. Not only that, but if he comments you can’t see any replies to his comment. There are a lot of comments in this thread startrek.website users can’t see.

    If you don’t want overzealous admins curating your experience on other instances, you might want to find a new instance.

    • Unforeseen@sh.itjust.worksBanned
      12·
      2 years ago

      Sh.itjust.works has been excellent for me since joining. Any outages we have had have been resolved quickly and I have yet to see any spam.

    • Chetzemoka@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 years ago

      I just jumped over to world because of all this. That makes my third instance in less than a year after leaving kbin.social for startrek land a few months ago. Lemmy is a little exhausting.

      • roscoe@startrek.website
        16·
        2 years ago

        But at least that’s an option. There is no non-spez instance of reddit, non-musk instance of twitter, or non-zuck instance of meta-stuff to jump to.

        I took both of the other respondents suggestions. It only took a few minutes to get approved at both and now I can see Car Talk With Martok again.

        I didn’t even know that the admin of my instance banning someone would prevent me from seeing posts made in another instance.

            • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              6·
              2 years ago

              Hopefully other users on startrek.website figure it out. I assumed I would see every post and comment posted on tenforward unless it was removed by lemmy.world admins or tenforward mods.

              It’s a bit annoying that an admin can curate my experience on other instances. But now I know to be on the lookout for it.

                • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  3·
                  2 years ago

                  Yeah, if someone wants to remove posts/comments on their community, even for petty reasons, whatever, it’s your community. If we don’t like it, we can move.

                  But an admin saying no one on their instance can see an instance/community/user should be reserved for extreme cases, like csam or nazi shit. Hurt feelings or contentious disagreements, even if you really think the other person is being a dick, isn’t enough to justify that.

            • Chetzemoka@lemmy.world
              6·
              2 years ago

              Hey man, not your fault. Petty little people who enjoy being tyrants over small, meaningless fiefdoms is an unfortunate theme of my life recently.

              I’m just here for the memes and appreciate your efforts.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        The admins and mods of that instance are 100% going to prison or getting heavily fined. Stay away or at least access it via Tor.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 years ago

        Considering how much Paramount+ is charging- $11.99/mo for no ads- when they have a fraction of the content of, for example, Peacock, which costs the same… I don’t blame anyone for pirating Star Trek shows at this point.

        And, of course, on top of that, Star Trek is spread across multiple streaming services and you would have to subscribe to them all and spend a ton of money if you wanted to watch it all.

        Most Star Trek is on Paramount+. But if you want to watch Prodigy? You need Netflix. Want to watch the TOS and TNG movies? You need Max. But hey, you can watch JJ “Trek” on Paramount+ instead of First Contact or Wrath of Khan. If you really want to.

    • Kelly Aster 🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 years ago

      If a user (Stamets, for example) is banned on your instance (startrek.website, for example) even here, a community on lemmy.world, you can’t see his posts. Not only that, but if he comments you can’t see any replies to his comment. There are a lot of comments in this thread startrek.website users can’t see.

      Jeez, that is…wow. A shitty mod can really wreck content visibility on the 'verse if they’re feeling particularly shitty.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 years ago

      Along with what Stamets already said, and I hope he doesn’t mind if he speaks on his behalf, he will be rather occupied for the foreseeable future- at least in the short term- and will be posting fewer memes during that time. But eventually, he’ll be back to his usual excellent post frequency and hopefully the rest of us mods can do what we can to fill the hole in his absence. And we’ll sure miss him while he’s busy!

      Let me know if you want me to delete this, Stamets. I thought letting people know they won’t see as much of you as usual for a while would be okay, so I hope you’ll be okay with me revealing that without giving any personal details. Especially since we all love you and your posts and I don’t want people thinking what OP is thinking and getting concerned.

      (To clarify, nothing dire is happening with Stamets, he’ll just be occupied with things other than Lemmy.)

  • mr_robot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    2 years ago

    I just found out today and had been wondering why the community suddenly died. Hopefully Ten Forward had something green to drink.

  • ummthatguy@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    20·
    2 years ago

    Month and change. Check the logs a little over a week ago for a post by Stamets explaining the situation. Welcome aboard!