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  • As for the whole “edge case” argument…

    Are millions of people whose cultures have ties to eating meat an edge case? Do they and their lifestyles not deserve consideration? Do other people not matter?

    And does managing the ecosystem not matter either? Do animals not matter? Cause if we full stop on responsible hunting and fishing billions of animals and plants will suffer needlessly.

    Just like we don’t use napalm to trim a hedge, we shouldn’t blame everyone without thinking about all the possible consequences. It’s not fun but it’s the best way to not cause far more needless suffering.


  • Look I get hating the meat industry, I despise factory farming too. It’s a brutal, and vile industry that needs to be regulated. But just blanket blaming everyone who consumes meat, and not giving them even a second of your time to understand why. Is. Just. Stupid.

    Just cause you don’t eat meat, does not give you the right to blame others for doing so. I respect people who can and do eat vegan or vegetarian. My mom is one of those people, however the difference is; she does not go out of her way to bully and belittle others for not making the same decision. She’s an actual adult about it.

    Like I already said, which it seems you never even read or just choose to ignore since it defeats your argument, some cultures eating meat is an aspect of it. Hunting animals is an aspect of their culture and cultural practices. We should not be saying their entire culture is evil because of that, and that they should abandon it since that is a racist and culturally insensitive.

    Nor should we look down on people hunting animals in cases where that helps keep the population stable. By doing so we keep prey animals from over populating, eating up all the available resources, leading to their lives being worse. Eating the meat that results from this, is ethical since less animals suffer because of the selective culling of the population.

    Or forbid someone, other than you, have a different diet that supports their health. Like another person wanting to live a happy and healthy life is the end of the world because their diet contains meat.


  • Let me explain why this analogy is utter shit.

    First off like Wren made clear, some people have dietary restrictions that make consuming meat an essential part of them living a healthy life.

    But there is far more to it than just that. There are religious, ethical consumption, and animal welfare components that should be examined before making an uninformed statement like that.

    So let’s look at the animal welfare side of things. All ecosystems are made up of a variety of different species, everything from bacteria, fungi, plants, animals, and more make up pieces of an ecosystem. Looking more specifically at the animal kingdom there are herbivores, carnivores, and omnivores. Within this world there are predators and apex predators, who hunt and consume other animals to fulfill their own dietary needs. Sadly within some of these ecosystems predators and apex predators have been killed off by humans for one reason or another. Thus leading to ecosystem collapse as the species that were feed on over consume resources and overpopulated.

    One way of curbing this issue is to reintroduce predators or for humans to fill that role. In plenty of areas humans keep an invaluable check on the wildlife populations by hunting and eating the animals. Because if the animal has to be killed to maintain a stable population, then why let good meat that can go to feeding other animals or people be let go to waste? But under what you have said you would argue that this is unethical and immoral.

    Then there is livestock who are raised in a spacious farm, given a healthy diet and killed in as ethical a manner as possible. This meat is not produced on a factory farm but with real care given to the animals involved.

    Lastly, we should look at the spiritual side of things. Where we shouldn’t be forgetting how in some cultures hunting and the consumption of meat plays a large role. Specifically in Native American (I know this term in loaded in its own right but there is no agreed upon term for the indigenous peoples) cultures hunting deer is a critical aspect of how men are supposed to be. And meat plays a part in their traditional food. So to blindly label meat and the consumption of it as bad, takes on a very racist undertone. It also ropes in the euro-centric thinking that led in large part to the destruction of these cultures in the first place.

    And let me cut you off right there, no. There was no carve outs for any of these reasons in the original post. Not a single one, it was intentionally made to make anyone who eats meat under any circumstances feel bad. As well as highjack the conversation on feminism and feminist thinking, and to convert into a way to bash other people who are different.







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    Oh especially in healthcare they love to not pay critical roles well.

    Everyone knows nurses aren’t paid nearly well enough for the work they do. But what less people know less about, or care less about, is how little EVS (environmental services) techs get paid. They get paid literally below poverty level wages (ask me how I know), despite it literally being an extremely important role in the healthcare system. Cause I doubt anyone wants to go a dirty hospital when you need care.







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