There is no one rule to fit all vegans, every vegan has to evaluate their own situations. You are right that some vegans are against all pet ownership. There is another group that believes if you rescue an animal from being euthanized or slaughtered and improve their standard of living and length of life, then that is ethical.

A huge part of being vegan is repetitive self-reflection, always searching for moral inconsistencies and working to fix them.

This is what leads vegans to consider a vegan diet for their pet, as if it was at least as healthy as non-vegan food, then less animals will be hurt due to the vegans choices.

Contrary to popular belief there are plenty of studies and case reports advocating for both sides of the argument of vegan cat food. Even by the admins new rules, we would be able to argue for vegan cat food as long as we only referenced studies.

Since its not settled either way, and multiple pet health and food organizations have stated their interest in researching the viability of vegan/vegetarian diets for dogs/cats, I think its fair to say it should be open for discussion.

Deep frying a TURDUCKEN!

You do know that everyone is aware they are not trapped here right?

This is not specific to cats. If you plan to formulate your own food for a pet, you need input from a vet and a nutritionist, or else risk hurting your animal. Plenty of people cooking fresh food for their dogs are not giving them a full nutrient profile either.

I think this is showing how much faith people have in regular commercial pet food. Normal pet food isnt great for your pets, look into what the ingredients actually are and their quality.

The only reason the idea of vegan food for cats and dogs came about was in an effort to make them healthier and happier animals. Its not to force a vegans morals onto an animal.

I’m vegan and I have a cat. My vet approved the vegan food for a trial but the cat didnt like it, so she eats meat now. If thats abusive to you then I’m not sure what to say.

Tell me why my entire vet office approved of this trial if its animal abuse always. The discussions here on this site simply dont match the discussions youll find if you talk to a vet or an animal nutritionist.

No, the first post was about that. This post is about how we aren’t allowed to have this conversation out loud.

I do have studies I can send you, I’m sure you know you can find studies all along the spectrum for most topics. I dont have the experience to defend the studies myself though but if you would like I can send you some to look over.

This whole post is frustrating because vegans are trying to reduce animal harm, and then get accused of harming their pets. Of course there are a handful of stories of people who tried a whole food diet and hurt their cats but not a single person recommended that, and multiple vegans correctly advised against it.

The point is that maybe we can trust that vegans of all people would be considerate of animal well being as best as they can, including trying healthier diets in the effort to prolong their lives.

Why are you so quick to move people into the bad vegan category? Sounds like a lot of people are just using this to confirm their belief that vegans are crazy and they should continue eating meat without a care.

I think I get it. If its possible a cat could be healthy and vegan, then humans have no excuse left do they.

Self preservation at its finest.

The other post isnt going to change the new rules from this post.

Have you apologized yet?

All studies on this will either be funded for or against it. You can’t just claim bias cause you connected a pair of dots in your head.

The same logic would disqualify papers that support your opinion too, as they are funded by companies that make money from selling meat.

If you think lemmy.world is worthless then you are mistaken.

Regular cat food is food made in the lab combined with such low grade meat that humans can’t eat it.

It turns out that pet diets all around are poorly understood by average people, who regularly shorten their cats lives or cause illnesses.

It turns out that it might be beneficial to work towards better health for our pets, whether thats with vegan food or not.

Vegans are only considering the food for their cats in an effort to make them healthier and happier.

Contrary to the common post here, this topic is not settled science. Anyone acting like it is simply refusing to allow themselves to hear out a perspective they instintually feel repulsed by.

Side note: funny how the most taboo subject on lemmy isnt something like incest or rape, its vegan cats.

at least for now I have a right to express my opinion here. I never demanded the instance change. I’m sure most would leave rather than fight an admin team over something so trivial, theres plenty of other instances out there.

Quite a lot of people experience physical discomfort or pain from eating the things you listed.

A good portion of the world is lactose intolerant, justtpo point out an obvious one.

Meat can cause a “spike followed by a come down” effect somewhat similar to sugar in some people.

But what I think happens is that people dont make the connection between how they feel and their diet.

Got any peer reviewed studies that show that a vegan diet is impossible for a cat?

Oh wait this isnt a medical journal, its a shit posting board on the internet, so who gives a flying fuck.

Thanks for repeating yourself again and proving me right.

The rules are written so the admins and mods can maintain their positions and feelings without having to explain themselves. Its an insistence that whatever they do is right because they own the place.

Thanks for banning discussion? Gonna have to explain that one.

You know what would be in the news, if a vegan forced their cat to be vegan until it died.

You know how many stories youll find about that. About 1 and the cat survived.

Now compare that to stories of healthy vegan cats, youll find plenty of those. Usually the stories are written from a skeptic point of view but the stories are there.

Thank you medical professional who surely also has experience with nutrition.

They asked for clarity on the admin position, thats all.

The original post leaves a lot open for interpretation. There are a group of people who would leave over this decision, and they are just asking to be able to make a decision more easily.

I will say since this post was the admin team saying they did nothing wrong, that the followup specifically about the vegan post in question will be full of similar nonsense.

Apparently that organization in your link has no issue advising its possible to have a healthy vegan/vegetarian diet. Guess they aren’t afraid people will kill their cats over it.

To be fair, you aren’t vegan and are incredibly obnoxious. Maybe you just attract obnoxious people in your life, vegan or not.