If you want to hang out or use the restroom at Starbucks, you’re going to have to buy something.
Starbucks on Monday said it was reversing a policy that invited everyone into its stores. A new code of conduct – which will be posted in all company-owned North American stores – also bans discrimination or harassment, consumption of outside alcohol, smoking, vaping, drug use and panhandling.
Starbucks spokesperson Jaci Anderson said the new rules are designed to help prioritize paying customers. Anderson said most other retailers already have similar rules.
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And libraries are not just about books. This is a thread I made about the new library branch my wife oversaw the design of opening:
https://lemmy.world/post/21386043
The reason conservatives hate libraries is because everything in them is free. Many (like my wife’s library system) do not even charge late fees anymore.
Many modern libraries also offer a ton of digital lending including ebooks, audiobooks and even streaming movies and TV.
My local library also offers a thermal camera rental! I’ve borrowed one several times, it’s very useful!
Nice! Having the free 3D printer access has been really useful for us on more than one occasion. We have no need to purchase one, but maybe once every six months, we might need to replace a part to something we can just 3D print and it’s been great.
You just have to slowly start printing all the pieces for your own
Von Neumann probeprinterThere are several designs for (partially) 3d printed printers.
The original RepRap was one, and Prusa printers have quite a few 3d printed components. Aside from the electronics, hot end, motors, screws, and aluminum frame, that’s entirely possible.
Obviously that’s still a lot you need to buy, but probably over half the actual parts are printable.
As someone with only a casual interest in 3d printing, are the open source 3d printers worth the effort it takes to make them vs buying one?
It’s like anything else. There are super high quality mass produced printers for like $200, so if you want to make some prints for the lowest cost possible, that’s the way to go.
If you want a hobby about learning and tweaking the printer itself, then yup, the open source printers are really good and fun to work with.
If you want to make super strong, high quality prints for prototyping, or industrial applications, then you’re probably going to need to get a serious, real manufactured printer.
The nice thing about 3d printing, is that there’s options for anyone’s interest level.
No.
You can get a factory new A1 Mini for $199. Nothing you can DIY for that price will ever come even close to beating it, and that doesn’t even take into account the amount of time spent building it.
It used to be worth it when cheap and good consumer printers didn’t exist, but nowadays building a DIY printer is not something you do for cost savings, you do it because you enjoy building it
Did you forget about the pinnacle of printable DIY printers, the Voron 2.4 (and it’s siblings)?
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Just curious, but do they still have due dates if not late fees?
They do. But basically it triggers a series of nagging emails which eventually result in a final one saying that you either return the book or pay for the book if you wish to continue using library services. If I remember correctly, that takes about nine months. And they don’t charge some outrageous price for the book either, they just charge what it would cost to replace it. They might not even do that because they might not actually want to replace it, but my wife has never actually told me that. I imagine that’s the case though because they’re constantly weeding out books that no one has taken a look at in 20 years in order to make room for new books.
Seems like a cool system but if your waiting for a copy of a new release they only have w5 copies of I can see not getting to read it for a very long time.
Most people are honest people. Especially people who use libraries. It’s just not a big problem as far as I know.
Also, if you’re going to a library to get a book, you probably don’t want to keep the book.
Makes sense. I guess I’m one of the few who can never finish a book by the due date so I end up buying instead. Maybe I should just start returning those to the library cause I never read em again.
Edit: huh. My library got rid of fees a few years ago. TIL.
If I recall correctly (i.e., I’m talking out my ass), when people have late fees that continue to stack up, some percentage of people will decide to just stop using the library. This results in them keeping the books, and also removes them as customers. This ultimately costs the library more than they gain by having fees.
Also, there’s the saying “a fine is a price”. The idea is that by having a late fee, people are okay paying the late fee. Shame is often stronger than modest fees.
We use the library a lot and honestly it’s just not an issue. People respect libraries and generally return books by the due date.
I love going to the library to panhandle and smoke. Librarians don’t mind, I always leave them a good tip.
But I can’t talk about how cool my macbook is and the bootstrap code I just copy and pasted
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Also community college libraries. Theyre usually open where you can kinda just show up
Support Local Coffee Shopsthanks.
This, also BDS.
I did a support call for a local coffee shop about a decade ago.
They had a separate WiFi router for guests. When they got a squatter they unplugged the guest WiFi if when they wanted him out.
They were in a very high traffic area and had minimal seating.
LOL
Ten years ago I would have just blocked the MAC address.
That requires you to be able to log into the router first. Most of the people working there don’t even know how to do that. (Even if it’s printed on the bottom)
The local shops all close early. I don’t even drink coffee. I just want a place to work with WiFi. I usually buy a snack and drink.
SLCS?
my local coffee shops are not only cheaper, but better than the Starbucks, at least the ones downtown
better vibes and nicer staff too
It’s a café though… Isn’t this normal for a café?
Yeah. But now they don’t have any advantages over other cafés. Except the fact that their coffees basically double as a rich snack I guess.
Sure, if you like burned coffee.
Just put ten parts milk in there with some sugar and you’ll never know.
It’s the consumption of an idea. There’s very little in the way of substance at Starbucks. I achieved more than any Starbucks order by grinding my folgers classic roast just now while using an unbleached compostable coffee filter and having cleaned the coffee maker with all natural biodegradeable dish soap. Can’t afford good coffee grounds right now, but recently I had ‘Punk Goes The Bunny’, Billie Joe Armstrong’s (from Green Day) coffee brand.
But here I am wondering if I’m just consuming a bunch of ideas myself. Consuming the idea of Punk Rock for instance, or eco-friendliness, or health. But then I catch myself and say “Those are tangible benefits.” Anything more likely to make me listen to The Clash is a positive, anything that’s not gonna put bleach in my body, anything that’s gonna be clean for making coffee but without such a residue of dangerous chemicals as is typical with cleaners, and anything to add to my compost.
I didn’t follow all that, but the Clash is the only band that matters.
A lot of places don’t just have cafés. Starbucks is about the only place in town with WiFi and a place to hang out
Hanging out in Libraries is free! I’ve gone in just for the AC.
AC, read something, have a nice seat for a while.
Or to pick up LILFs!
“Hey, look at us–we’re the new public hangout, everyone’s invited”
Expands into an empire dotting the entire country
“Sorry poors–paying customers only, please.”
Embrace, extend, extinguish all over again 🎉
If I remember correctly, this policy was introduced after they got flack because some employee called the cops on a black person who was just hanging out inside the store.
Turns out money is more important to them than the appearance of inclusion surprised pikachu face
Embrace, extend, extinguish all over again
I do not think that means what you think it means.
The best thing I’ve seen in a coffee shop was a “Please no laptops” sign.
Its ridiculous how everyone just goes and works in coffee shops all day.
I understand buying a coffee, and working while you enjoy it. But once you’re done, and your work is saved gtfo.
We need more third spaces.
I troubleshoot a VPN connection for a man who does his work from a Dunkin at least once a week. He doesn’t even drink coffee or eat donuts. He just hangs out there and works until his VPN breaks.
Starbucks coffee isn’t even good anyway. But without more coworking spaces or some other alternative people like me will occasionally be forced to work from one for one reason or another. In the towns around military bases especially you frequently see spouses of those who work on base in Starbucks doing their remote work since it’s the only possible place they can work from if they were staying in a hotel the night before.
And so dies another 3rd Space
meh, this one can die.
[flat] No, wait, come back.
Starbucks seems intent on showing itself the door. Hopefully when they’re done, better, smaller coffee shops with no shareholder obligations will take their place
The Starbucks 3rd space idea has been dead since 2015-2018. It was a conscious choice.
Well this gives me a good excuse to never go to Starbucks ever again (even though people shouldn’t be going to Starbucks anyway)
Just put a CC reader on the bathroom door.
Then put a Starbucks in the restroom.
Like russian nesting dolls. Just starbucks all the way down.
pushing my peepee into the miniature starbucks and peeing on the doll baristas 🤤🤤
u nasteh
No difference in taste.
So what I’m hearing is people need to start pissing and shitting on the building itself.
I can piss and shit on Starbucks management by not going there - all doing it for real does is force some underpaid barista to have to go clean shit up, and management learns nothing.
You can do both. I never go to Starbucks but will gladly make a detour just to piss on the flowerbeds.
the employee having to clean up after you is most likely just trying to unionize and provide for their family.
No don’t, that’s not good for the flowers!
Meh, the last time I’ve been in one was 2011. Too expensive for what it is, and plenty of other options in my city.
Yeah starbucks is a coffee shop for soccer moms and affluent suburbanites. There are a dozen better coffee shops that serve actual coffee for less AND you don’t have to deal with Starbucks entitled customer base.
My fiancee got a Starbucks gift card from work, so we stopped by the one nearest us. The drive-through wrapped all the way around the building, so we went inside. Inside, there was only one huge table, with only one spot with an electrical outlet, and the music and cafe atmosphere were so loud… I can’t imagine anybody trying to bring a laptop and “work” there.
But if I did, I guess I’d buy a coffee? That seems fair. I definitely prefer my local library for remote working outside of the house, though.
It’s been awhile since I went to a library, but are there places for taking remote meetings to avoid disturbing others?
Oftentimes, yes. Mine has a series of little rooms. They are often used by teens working on homework together.
Other than meeting rooms, I’ve seen some with the little privacy pods too.
My local one has 10 or so small rooms for maybe 3-4 people max, and 2 larger conference rooms that could easily hold 30+ people each. It’s not even one of the bigger city libraries either. The ones down town have even more facilities.
To add on to the other replies here, both of the two closest libraries to me have several small rooms for this as well.
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I hope they can make their drinks even more expensive.
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