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Rage 2022 in Cleveland.
Which one of the 2 buildings was this in?
RoMoFiHo
Why are all of their songs still relevant 30 years later?
Because the problems they raged about are systemic, and the system didn’t change.
It did change, though. It got significantly worse.
Because humans are fucking stupid and history always repeats itself.
All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
Until conservatives and authoritarians stop getting their way.
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.
A few weak men are indeed making very hard times
The problem with this quote is that everyone thinks they’re the strong men. In other words, it’s mostly useless rhetoric that doesn’t really identify the problem.
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“The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose above the great mountainous island of Tremalking. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.”
So say we all.
The problems are systemic and the humans in the system are incentivized to perpetuate the system.
Its not stupidity.
Humans or Americans?
Because those that work forces are still the ones that burn crosses
Because nobody actually listened to and took seriously what they were saying 30 years ago.
Fun fact: After 9/11, various songs evoking 9/11, such as ‘Learning to Fly’ by Tom Petty, ‘Stairway to Heaven’ by Led Zeppelin, ‘It’s the End of the World as we Know it’ by REM … all banned from airing for about 120 days.
Oh.
And literally everything from Rage Against the Machine.
Other fun fact about this?
This censorship wasn’t done by the FCC.
It was done by ClearChannel, aka iHeartRadio, aka, the corporation that now owns or controls basically all terrestrial radio stations.
https://www.kerrang.com/here-are-the-164-songs-that-were-banned-from-american-radio-after-9-11
Warpigs is still banned by Clearchannel
Wow.
I did not know that.
Hooray for the enshittified cyberpunk dystopia.
The same reason socialist theory is still relevant 150+ years after it started
Good example:
Renegades Of Funk
https://tidal.com/browse/track/23682737?uThat one’s a cover actually! It’s even older :P
The original is very different than that RATM version (as expected), but very good as well.
I didn’t know they were so WoKe!!
Because things have gotten worse in the intervening 30 years?
Drove all the way to NYC to see them with Run the Jewels after the pandemic. 100% worth it, one of the best shows I’ve ever been to.
Tim Commorford is weird to watch though. He kinda hops awkwardly from foot to foot.
It’s so disappointing to hear Killer Mike spit revolutionary lyrics like in ‘close your eyes’ only to find out IRL he’s into lame shit like black capitalism.
Yeah. The music still slaps though.
RATM’s bassist is into some weird fringe right-libertarian stuff too if I recall
Nobody’s perfect 🤷♂️
or they changed. 30 years is a long time.
their debut was released
- 3 years after the fall of Berlin wall
- a year after the dissolution of USSR
- 9 years before the September 11 attacks
- 15 years before iPhone
- 24 years before the election of a reality tv entertainer/real estate conman as POTUS
- China wasn’t a superpower back then
- EU didn’t exist in its current form
- Apartheid was still an actuality
- internet wasn’t omnipresent
How was China not a superpower then?
They were easily a superpower since before they were backing Vietnam and Korea in our shitty wars with them.
China’s GDP was lower than Canada’s. Economic strength is not the only factor of a superpower, but it’s significant. It’s hard to project power effectively without sufficient wealth to fund those efforts.
Fair enough. How many resources did the US waste in Vietnam and Korea fighting someone who was not a so called superpower?
Quite a lot. The US did the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan too. Who cares about who the enemy is or how many people die if they military industrial complex is making bank?
A country doesn’t need to be a superpower to project some power, but very few rise to the level of global hegemony. I think China is probably in the superpower tier today. The belt and road initiative is classic economic hegemony shit.
In 1944, during World War II, the term was first applied to the British Empire, the Soviet Union, and the United States. During the Cold War, the British Empire dissolved, leaving the United States and the Soviet Union to dominate world affairs. At the end of the Cold War and the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the United States became the world’s sole superpower, a position sometimes referred to as that of a “hyperpower”. Since the late 2010s and into the 2020s, China has increasingly been described as an emerging superpower or even an established one, as China represents the “biggest geopolitical test of the 21st century” to the United States, as it is “the only country with enough power to jeopardize the current global order”.
Apartheid was still an actuality
So you’re saying nothing’s changed?
anybody from South Africa to reply to this?
or is this about the apartheid in Israel/Palestine?
Nothing’s changed.
South African Blacks 40 years ago had it no worse than they do today.
Killer “pro-cop” Mike?
only to find out IRL he’s into lame shit like black capitalism.
Does it mean something other than what is here, or did I miss something offensive in skimming through the entry?
This isn’t one of those lame “now they are the machine” posts is it?
I saw them in Cleveland on that tour. Zach had hurt his foot so he sat on the monitor speaker the whole time, but the rest of the guys made up for it.
I paid a LOT of money to get good tickets, and it was 10000% worth it. I’d never seen rage live and figured I might not get to again, so spend the money. Also I’m an rtj fan.
I was at the Chicago show where he hurt himself going pretty hard.
Actually got it on video too
After he sat down for the rest of the set he sounded amazing. Great show.
Whoa that’s crazy you caught it.
Props to him for not breaking his flow, a true professional.
But also, Zach you’re not a spring chicken anymore, gotta dial it back some!
Yeah, I think the Madison Square Garden show was one of the last ones they did, Zach was hobbled up good for it.
Super worth it though, I was in the same boat. Show had been rescheduled 3 times but we committed lol
We cannot accurately judge your dedication until you tell us from where you drove to NYC. New Jersey and Anchorage have very different weights here.
Honolulu
I wish they hadn’t canceled the show here in Seattle. Zack broke his arm and since they are old, he wanted to take time to let it heal. I waited three years from the initial scheduled show for it to be canceled.
I preferred them when they weren’t so political.
/S obviously haha. I’m currently cutting a stencil that says “Nazi lives don’t matter” to make some shirts.
lol
Haha saw that one, too. I haven’t ordered from them in a while because shipping was annoying for where I am. “Punk with a camera” is the store/YouTube channel. They have some great stuff. Especially if you like folk-punk.
30 years later and more relevant than ever… That’s not a good thing. Continue to rage.
Nazi lives matter a little. You can tally them up to keep score.
That still only counts as one!
That’s why you take the ears to help count.
300 nazi scalps
A more accurate way to document. People usually have 2 ears, so I can see some people claiming twice the kills.
Reply to when someone luigis musk
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killing in the name of
now you do what they told you
By the time drag is old and feeble, drag will be surrounded by loved ones and not want to go out that way. Average happiness goes up with age.<br>
This is how the good die young, isn’t it
Save a life, punch a nazi
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Fuck Nazis
Mary Morello deserves some love as well. Tom has a show on sirius xm. I was introduced to Zeal & Ardor bc of them.
I’m going to my states senate office on Monday with a megaphone and will not leave until the police are called. I’m going to write out what I want to say because I’m too heated to speak freely. Naysayers need not reply.
I’m going to my states senate office on Monday
Monday is Presidents day, are you sure they’ll be open? I know a couple state employees and they have the day off. This could vary by state and office I guess. I’m just saying maybe check the website or something.
They were open! It wasn’t just me there either. 🤘
23 nazis disagree with this lol
As suggested listening following RATM, may I suggest American Idiot by Green Day. You may find similar themes in that album.
Any other suggestions on how we can fight fascism by giving money to record companies?
The band you are looking for is Fugazi. Totally pure in their resistance to destructive capitalism.
This is the way.
So what have they done besides sing a few songs so that people can think that they’re making a difference by listening to their iPods?
And no, I’m not going to listen to them. I’m boycotting American products wherever I can.
I have personally seen the guitarist knock a racist out with his guitar. So that’s something.
Not to mention the art they created certainly did more good than the average keyboard warrior trying to call music meaningless.
Here’s the introduction (aka “Pillar I”) to the plan currently being implemented: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Some highlights:
From page 20 of the project: “Vought (officially in charge of OMB after being confirmed recently) writes that the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) should establish a “reputation as the keeper of ‘commander’s intent,’””
From page 21: " In Chapter 1, former deputy chief of staff to the President Rick Dearborn writes that the White House Counsel “must take seriously the duty to protect the powers and privileges of the President from encroachments by Congress, the judiciary, and the administrative components of departments and agencies.”
Page 28: “When a new President takes office, he will need to decide expeditiously how to handle any major ongoing litigation or other pending legal matters that might present a challenge to his agenda”…“, the President should hire a counsel with extensive experience with a wide range of complex legal subjects. Moreover, while a candidate with elite credentials might seem ideal, the best one will be above all loyal to the President”
Page 32, regarding the office of presidential personnel (DOGE): “Playing “bad cop” in a way that other White House offices cannot (including serving as the office that takes direct responsibility for firings and hirings).”
