Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)

  • Dop@lemmy.world
    39·
    1 year ago

    Where’s Signal (or molly if you need foss)? Signal is an non-profit organisation, so I’d say it can hardly be branded ‘from’ anywhere unless you’re talking about servers location but then…

    • no banana@lemmy.world
      62·
      1 year ago

      I told OP this in previous post; Spotify gave money to Trumps’ inauguration. That’s why it was removed.

    • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      15·
      1 year ago

      but also platforms right wingers that had an impact on influencing our election. i get i shouldn’t be the one guiding boycotts of my own nation’s products, i’m just saying spotify has been antihelpful when it comes to the creation of this situation

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
      5·
      1 year ago

      Why don’t we include nestle then?

      Just because it is European, doesn’t mean the company is worth a shit dripping down a wall.

      Spotify is a shit company. Pays artists by far the lowest in the industry (especially if you take into account their scummy minimums, catches, and terms for smaller musicians), injects shitty AI songs into Spotify-made playlists so they won’t have to pay the artists the little they do, gives “donations” to fascists, and heavily invests in fucking war companies including partnering one who is essentially trying to make “the dark night” tracking machine to pair with AI assassination drones.

      (Also side note, have you noticed all of these scummy surveillance companies making their names into very well-known references to pop culture so that all news stories on them are essentially lost to the pop culture void when searching for them? Palantir, helsing, etc…)

      • torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Yes, multiple people have pointed this out already and I’ve agreed with them. However I work in the music industry and Spotify is definitely not paying by far the lowest. By sheer volume they’re paying most of the share a song is earning nowadays and even on a per play basis they are fairly similar to their competitors, maybe slightly lower.

        We can make the argument that revenue on a per stream basis is much too low in general and I would agree, but then we also have to rethink the entire pricing model.

        • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
          1·
          1 year ago

          OK, true Pandora pays the least, but Spotify is down there.

          Spotify pays 0.3¢ per stream.

          Tidal pays 1.3¢ per stream, 400% more

          Qobuz is around 4¢ per stream, 300% more. Some regions can apparently go down to as little as 1¢ per stream, still much more.

          Hell, apple music pays over double what Spotify does at 0.8¢

          Yes it pay around what shitty US companies pay per stream, but the whole point of this point is that it is a bad standard. PLUS, these other services don’t have the “shit on small artists” policies like Spotify.

          Let’s take a small artist that has 10k streams on Spotify and qobuz:

          • on qobuz they earn more than 100 euros

          • on Spotify they earn 0 euros

          and anything above their minimum, does not earn the total, but the total - the minimum

          A small artist that has 20k streams on the same two, and assume the Spotify stream minimum is 10k (IIRC it is a bit higher)

          • on qobuz, they earn more than 200€

          • on spotify, they earn about 30€

          Plus this isn’t even addressing the making of shitty AI music and injecting it in playlists to steal even more revenue from artists.

  • prinzmegahertz@lemm.eeEnglish
    34·
    1 year ago

    Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.

    That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.

    • Kualdir@feddit.nlEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Exactly my problem why I’m not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.

      Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use

      • kilonova@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, it reminds me of that software Richard from silicon valley tv show made that was just so overly complicated. I’ve got to say the people who come up with these ideas are very intelligent, but it’s so overly complicated and not user friendly at all.

        • Kualdir@feddit.nlEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          They are too set on catering to the small minority that cares about the privacy/decentrilisation of it all while a normal user just cares about: Simply creating an account and using the service

  • NewDay@lemmy.world
    25·
    1 year ago

    Unfortunately, the PeerTube community is inactive and small. There are basically no interesting videos at all.

    • Mihies@programming.dev
      10·
      1 year ago

      Yep, as it doesn’t have a monetization incentive it will be never that appealing. There should be a way for authors to earn money.

        • 🇳🇱 Snoezelpoes@feddit.nl
          9·
          1 year ago

          It’s true that the monetisation of everything is pretty awful, but it’s one of the most important reasons to join a platform for content creators whether we like it or not.

          The main reason to join a platform for a creator is the amount of the potential viewers, which of course don’t increase much without new content creators. Therefore Peertube needs a secondary reason for creators to join, which it doesn’t seem to have.

          If anything, joining Peertube will in theory decrease their income, which actually gives them a reason to not join :(

        • Mihies@programming.dev
          6·
          1 year ago

          Monetizing leads to being able to pay bills. Don’t you think authors deserve being paid for the content if they wish so? Besides Google managing of youtube is cause of shittiness. Personally I would be fine with a subscription as long as artists get most of it.

                • Mihies@programming.dev
                  4·
                  1 year ago

                  Yeah, that does not and will not work, at least not on scale. Think about an average user - do you think he/she will donate to each video he/she watches, perhaps on TV? But if the model is a subscription one (think Netflix, Tidal, Spotify, heck, perhaps even YouTube and so on, with amount being fairly distributed to authors), then it just might work.

        • SeboBear@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Can not agree more. When I open YouTube and see the amount of clickbait previews, badly cut and created content and just copies left n right I loose all interest

      • FundMECFS
        4·
        1 year ago

        It’s not about monetisation. It’s about audience. Who is going to bother to host an instance and post to a platform where the most popular videos only get 100 views?

      • Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        3·
        1 year ago

        One more request then! If appreciate it is your not put text everywhere without additional information. For example the AI filler on the browser page is just noise. Is rather only have the list than contract filters:

        “”" There are several compelling reasons to opt for European web browsers. These browsers not only prioritize user privacy and data protection but also foster innovation and support local technology ecosystems. “”"

        Thanks for the project by the way!

        • Buy-European.net@lemmy.caOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Thanks for the feedback! We decided to go for it as we want to make sure that the database is not specifically designed for tech-savvy people. We want to give basic information to make the move to different solutions accessible and easy to understand for everyone.

  • GiddyGap@lemm.ee
    16·
    1 year ago

    It’s pretty telling that, as a European, I’ve literally not heard of any of those European alternatives.

    • Buy-European.net@lemmy.caOP
      24·
      1 year ago

      Due to negative feedback in version 1.0 I removed it from the infographic. You can still find it in the database itself.

  • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
    10·
    1 year ago

    As a musician, I don’t like SoundCloud. The free upload limit is way too small, their compression is not great and every time you do anything they try to sell you one of their subscriptions, which also cost way too much imo.

    If other musicians didn’t use it as much I would have already thrown it out long ago.

    • RandomVideos@programming.dev
      1·
      1 year ago

      Android is open source. Most companies make their own versions of android that include google services and their own apps, theming

      You can get a version of android without google services or emulated google services. This will make a lot of apps on the google play store not work, but its better for privacy. These are phone-specific so you may not find a version available/supported for the phone you are using. Examples are graphene os(exclusive to pixel phones), lineageos and /e/os

      You can also install linux on your phone, but i dont know much about this

    • CrowyTech@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I’ve given up on an android alternative, or Google free android due to not wanting to lose banking apps

  • A_Porcupine@lemmy.world
    5·
    1 year ago

    Here Wego is the worst maps service I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Amazon used to use it for deliveries (maybe they still do), and it took almost a year to get it to recognise that my house was not 8 miles away on a completely different road. It messed up the Amazon routes as the route it picked was all in that same area, except my house, that was 8 miles away.

    • starlinguk@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      Google moves my address too. And it’s not even a new address, just a “new” building. Apple thinks it’s a building site (it was built in 2020!). The only map that recognises the address properly is Here Wego.