Old Graphics =/= Bad Graphics
edit: furthermore old =/= bad. Old is a quantitative measure and bad is qualitative. Trying to use one measure as the litmus for the other is like saying “there are five apples on that tree, they must taste terrible.”
inb4: i dont care if it isnt a perfect analogy and there’s actually some study somewhere that showed that apple trees that retain prime number multiples of fruit on their branches statistically taste worse when rated on a blind taste test.
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It’s almost like mechanics trumps graphics.
See Dwarf Fortress.
Not really? I would love to play complex game like df or cataclysm with good 3d graphics.
DW has good graphics now compared to what it use to have.
Are you trying to tell me that this doesn’t look amazing? Look at those lovely hills and fjords! I think I even see a fox poking it’s head out
I can hear the guitar melody
Check out Going Medieval. Doesn’t have everything DF has, but it’s something.
It’s low-poly so it’s not that big of a jump, but the 3d camera alone makes it so much easier to play than dwarf fortress.
Shitty visual aesthetics has kept me from playing so many games from small devs, i don’t want their crappy pixel-graphics bullshit, I played those when I was a kid I don’t need that anymore now that we have the ability to do better…I don’t want one or the other, I want both. I would rather play a game with mediocre mechanics and great graphics than one with great mechanics and mediocre graphics.
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To each their own, but when I play games I want games that are fun to play. When I want realistic graphics I just go for a walk.
by that logic xkcd is bad
I think this kind of attitude means you’re going to miss a lot of fantastic games, honestly. Games offer a lot more than just visuals, and many very pretty games are extremely bad games.
They’re not bad graphics, they’re good graphics… for their time
Nahhh, some of them really were bad graphics. Morrowind and Mario Sunshine came out in the same year.
The scope of each of those games is so vastly different that I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. The art styles are wildly different too.
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I also frequently lie to myself.
The world of Morrowind, in aggregate, is beautiful and sometimes genuinely breathtaking.
Individual models may look like deep fried asshole, but they come together to form an aesthetic that I personally like quite a lot.
so I totally forgot that I commented on this, and was coming in to make a comment about how aesthetic is so much more important than graphical fidelity, then saw that I had already made a quippy comment.
oops.
Different styles. All Morrowind’s missing is ragdolls and physics.
Though Oblivion Rosacea is hard to look past…
There’s a charm to early 3D. Late 2D is a timeless look, but early 3D is unmistakably mid 90s to early 2000s stuff.
I’ve been running the original Resident Evil trilogy. The graphics age it, of course, but the games are just awesome. Resources are limited. You have to consider what’s worth wasting ammo on. You have to consider if you’ve done enough to justify a save. The puzzles aren’t terribly difficult, but they’re satisfying. And I love a good old fashioned jump scare.
It’s cute that people think those are low res graphics.
It’s cute that people think the games they are playing have good graphics
It’s cute that people think
It’s cute
No u
New games look like realistic pencil drawings that were smudged to shit.
I literally have Elden Ring screenshots on my PS4 that look worse than Super Mario 64 screenshots.
It’s like modern games all have a screen shader at the end specifically to fuck up the graphics and blur details. I know it’s TAA and friends but damn. It feels weird that so many games have broken graphics that only look good when taking promotional screenshots. And people call them good looking games lol
… so many games have broken graphics that only look good when taking promotional screenshots.
This is a huge pet peeve of mine, especially when looking at the screenshots or even videos of a game.
You’ll be looking at the store page for like a top-down strategy game, and all they show are a bunch of cinematic closeups of character’s faces with FXAA 99999 and 0 screenshots showing the UI. Bro, that is NOT what playing the game looks like.
I want to see the UI. I Like The UI. I like the strategic camera angle. I am an ACTUAL FAN of this genre and have willingly put myself in your sales funnel - show me the features of the actual game that I want to purchase and play, please.
Sometimes I play old games because of the graphics, not despite them. For nostalgia and the fact that my crappy laptop can handle them.
You can have my Project 1999 when you pry it from my cold, dead, fingers.
Fact: PS1 games in an emulator with increased resolution looks super cool
not only based, but also gay.
because gay is good, therefore the original point is good.
edit: lemmy does not respect formatting 100%. I wanted larger gaps between sections.
More than cool, add in other enhancements and most 3D games don’t need a remaster that will most likely be bloated data-wise.
Particularly when it comes to vertex colors (see Spyro’s skyboxes) rendering at modern res immaculately, upselling into photorealism is just throwing out the smartest and most unique thing the game had.
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Is that PS1 Hagrid?
Or: people who play new games in this style :) two examples I’ve enjoyed very much are Lorn’s Lure and ULTRAKILL.
Gotta shout out Parking Garage Rally Circuit, neat little racing game that just came out using this retro style. Like Mario Kart, but just the sweet drift boosting and none of the shell bs lol
More like kilochad amirite?
It’s exactly that game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4D_Sports_Boxing
Nay, that is Megachad, we didn’t have such large storage back then.
