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    I used to purchase everything I could from GOG until I switched to Linux full time. I still like the company and buy some from them, but until they become more Linux friendly or Steam gets worse I’ll still prioritize Steam now. And it’s not only the (very odd) resistance to making a Linux version of Galaxy, I’ve also seen them not offer Linux versions of games even when the developers have released it on other platforms.

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      I tried to push for GOG purchases too and then I just ended up with games that would receive updates late. I’d miss out on discounts and bundles that make future purchases cheaper, at some point it was cheaper to just rebuy stuff with DLCs on Steam than continue building up the library on GOG.

      I also gave their galaxy client a try since it promised a united library for all platforms and then they did a horrible job managing the plugins for other stores - they constantly kept breaking or logging me out while even Playnite worked perfectly out of the box.

      In the end I just stopped wasting energy on GOG, life is too short and complicated enough. If they have a good deal on old games I might grab it, otherwise I prefer anything else.

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        Same here. I had nearly all the XCOM2 DLC purchased from GOG, and then Steam ran a sale on the bundle that was cheaper than buying the last piece to complete the collection! Since then I think GOG have run similarly cheap sales, but it wasn’t the last time I saw that happen.

        I know launchers like Heroic are available, and I use it for some of my games from them, but I actually liked the Galaxy launcher on Windows. I wasn’t linking it to anything else though, so I didn’t run into the issues you mention.

        It’s sad, because I think they could do well in the Linux community. Hopefully they eventually start supporting it, but until then I’ll be buying most of my games from the company that’s actively contributing and improving things for the community.

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          I’ve noticed that GOG usually runs their sales after Steam’s sales (or maybe before? Either way, they’re not in sync) and that it’s usually all the same stuff on sale. I don’t buy GOG anymore because Linux but back when I was still on Windows I would wait a week and buy from GOG where applicable.

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      And Linux versions taking over a week longer to update than the steam ones. I refunded a game over that before and got it on steam instead.

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    Heroic Games Launcher, supports gog cloud saves, full wine/proton integration and even store front.

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    Yeah, they promised Linux support years ago with Galaxy 2.0.
    It’s basically the reason why I always prefer Steam for my games.

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    I think the bigger complaint is that, when Galaxy was released, GOG said (back in 2015)

    A Linux version of our client is planned eventually … Stay tuned for future announcements

    Ten years is plenty of time to implement a launcher, or at least give a planned timeline

    Sure, third parties have done it with Heroic, etc. but promising support and not delivering leaves a really bad taste to me

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      CDProjekt/GOG said the same thing about Cyberpunk 2077, their biggest product ever, and in the year 2025 I’m still running the Windows version of that through Proton because they give no fucks.

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        To be fair, you probably don’t want a native version anyways. Most native games i’ve played just required me to switch to proton because they had their own share of issues that the proton versions didn’t have.

        At this point it’s better for devs to make proton support a goal(i.e steam deck compatibility) rather than native linux builds. Linux just has too much diversity for native linux support to not be a massive pain in the ass in my opinion.

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          True. I’ve had plenty of games where the native version didn’t work, but the Proton version worked flawlessly. Small devs can get more value for their time by aiming for Proton compatibility

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      Ten years is plenty of time to implement a launcher, or at least give a planned timeline

      Or to give literally any kind of update, like admitting it was never seriously planned.

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    I agree, it was something I would have thought would happened a long, long time ago. Then a few years ago I thought for sure when steam and linux were really picking up.

    It is one of the reasons I dont use gog that much.

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      I get into this on the post, but AFAIK community-built solutions such as Heroic and Lutris aren’t exactly the same, with a lot of Galaxy’s selling points being the cloud features such as save data sync and a friends list system for online play.

      Different people may or may not find uses for these features, but it’s still worth discussing IMO.

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        Imho, if they decide to put effort into Linux, I’d rather see them put dev resources into heroic to add these features than to make just another client. They are late to the market, that would make the most of it.

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    This is what keeps me on Steam, along with Steam Input and Big Picture

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    Because Linux still makes up a small % of PC Gamers, so CDPR hasn’t prioritized it. Plus they’d need to have some kind of proton-like middleware (or just proton) for the majority of their games (which are mostly 15-20+ years old) to be playable. It seems like a large engineering challenge for a company which isn’t nearly as wealthy as valve

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        CD Projekt is a public company, which would likely be cautious in relying on complex third-party tools like Wine.

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          Most businesses rely on third party tools and software libraries. Particularly open source ones.

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          Valve isn’t public, but they seem to be making plenty off of WINE. In fact, companies of all types love building on other projects, because it reduces how much work they need to do.

          They just don’t seem to care. They could literally hire someone who works on Heroic to make an official Galaxy port reusing most of Heroic’s functionality. Yet they don’t.

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          Yep, no public company would ever use Apache, nginx, AWS. Those are all 3rd party tools.

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            They are third-party tools used by other thousands of companies.

            Wine used to have no product built on top of it, and CodeWeavers is independent.

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              Aren’t there a bunch of ports based on Wine in a wrapper? Those are all products.

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      “This river doesn’t need a bridge because almost nobody ever crosses it.”

      Also is there a reason they can’t just distribute proton? It’s open under BSD, so they’d be free to do it.

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      osx has an even lower market share (at least according to the steam survey), and they made one for it

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      Proton is open source, they could just use that. Valve would hardly complain as it helps more games run on steamdeck.

      I want to use GoG more but they seem to increasingly not care about Linux. So I use Steam.

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      Well it’s not going to be the same engineering challenge as it was for Valve, because they only need to integrate proton, not develop it. If proton works on Lutris (via umu), an open source project with no corporate backing as far as I’m aware, surely CDPR can at least attempt it. This is probably the best time to do it, too. SteamOS has been well received and is likely to end up on even more handhelds, and Windows 10 is nearing its EoL. If GoG is one of the first storefronts to allow its users to play outside of windows it might generate a lot of positive sentiment in the community, just like they did with their anti-DRM stance.

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    I’ve been with linux for 20 years now and at one point GOG was the place to go, because DRM was one of the biggest problems with wine.

    I downloaded all my games stopped using it after they came up with their own electronic store, which I thought was a horrible shit and very clunky on wine.

    Steam and proton were rising at the same time and more and more games were working without the usual fuss of installing .dll files, obscure media codecs, .net and etc, so it was bye bye GOG.

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    Marginal support happens a lot on Linux. See AMD drivers without Adrenaline. “You may use Linux if you must… at your own risk… we do the bare minimum to keep you runnig… our past stuff is in the open but we can pull the rug on future releases any time.” You can install gog games and maybe some dude made galaxy work in wine, corporate has decided that is good enough.

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    I use GOG to get away from downloading things in the context of a store and have a nice little archive of installers to use whenever I want it. I am trying to get as many Steam games to just be that way so when I run the binary it just works without Steam being involved at all. Laughably few will do it on their own but there are some ways around others…

    Yeah, quite happy without some bloated launcher, thanks.

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      This exactly.

      I don’t want an extra launcher/downloader thing that keeps on running in the background.

      When I want to play the game, I want to only have to start the game itself. That on top of the fact that Linux can have significantly less bloat than Windows, is a big +.
      I even experimented with turning off plasma and playing the game directly in X11 without even a WM. Though it turned out not to make a big difference since the DE seems to be light enough to not be a problem.

      Even in case of Steam, the only times I want to have to run it is when I am opening the store or updating the games. Not when I just want to play it and definitely not for a Linux native game which does not require Proton nor the runtime.

      So, if there are enough people like me, the client would be a wasted effort.

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          in theory, comet should handle it, but it is inconsistent for me. does it depend on the game? for instance, i only got achiements in brigador, but i played art of rally, dungeons 2-3, and a couple others which should have achievements, but didn’t get any

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    tbf with heroic launcher starting to implement comet (galaxy api), it might not be needed anymore

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      It would certainly make me more likely to support GOG financially. At least fund its development.

      I understand the devs profit from purchases made through Heroic to GOG, but I’d like to see something a little more explicit than what seems like an affiliate link.

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      You may not agree, but some people actually like the platform integration features that Galaxy and Steam and the like provide. Cloud sync and achievements and things that you may not care about are important to other people.

      And then there’s just the whole “They said they would, and this is not very reassuring about their commitment to Linux users.”

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      Besides what the other person said, there’s also the whole treating Linux users as second class citizens. If they didn’t had a launcher for Windows, then it wouldn’t be that big of a problem, but the fact that they did created a launcher for Windows years ago and porting it to Linux has been the most upvoted feature request since then and they haven’t done it is a slap in the face of a community that shares a lot of their beliefs. Valve is investing money on making Linux gaming a reality, GoG won’t even port their launcher to Linux, despite not caring for a launcher I know who I’m giving my money.

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      If third party launchers were as good as the first party ones, we wouldn’t.

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      I like having all my games in one place, on a platform where Linux “just works” and I don’t have to fuck around with it.

      Eliminating third-party launchers sounds great in theory until you have 20 different half-baked second party launchers that serve no purpose other than being a barrier between me and the games.

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    Because it doesn’t make business sense to them. The author of the article makes just two arguments and assumes those are the only relevant arguments. There’s a lot more involved in the decision to port GOG Galaxy to Linux. Like support, for example.

    Personally, since proton got so good and heroic can just use any version of proton installed, I’ve began to buy GOG games again and run them through heroic. 99% of the time they just run OK. But of course I do my due diligence and check protondb before making a purchase.