• 0x0@lemmy.zip
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    There’s still rss.
    There’s still email.
    There are still blogs.

    And there’s gemini.

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      In México very little News sources use RSS, at most they have Flipboard accounts or Twitter :(

      This also applies to information about the government, where most of the politicians and other elements use Twitter :/

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        You can’t even get regulatory bodies to have an RSS feed. In my last job I was really annoyed because the only way you could figure out if the EU had changed their chemical regulations is by being in either a very specific LinkedIn group or just checking their website again and again.

        It’s hard to write software for regulatory compliance when the regulations and data schema change seemingly at random.

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        Sometimes you just have to dig a little deeper because they don’t really want you using RSS. If you give me some examples I can take a look

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        True elsewhere – there’s no profit in RSS I guess.
        It is still around though and you can RSS-ify some sites.

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    i donno man. i still use rss, and they solved tracking by not putting the article in the xml, just a link that ends in source rss.

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      Or putting a weird (and illegal) consent dialogue the reader can’t crawl. Golem.de does that, one of the biggest german tech newspapers.

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      Isn’t that a legitimate use-case for RSS (specifically Atom) though? My blog’s feed just points to the plain-HTML pages with the post. It seems wasteful to put my entire site in a single, polled file.

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    We need to reject web3 and create web 1.5. a modern version of web 1.0, without the bullshit and platforms.

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    Absolutely miss that old internet.

    It had flaws aplenty, but anyone could pick up a “…for dummies” book and cadge together a website. Plenty of free website generators and hosts, too. All those personal pages, family pages, “Hello World!” pages, personal hobbies and small businesses…. Then of course the newsgroups, freeware apps and tools from generous people filling in the gaps in available software…yeah. It was completely unpolished, wild, and unpredictable…but it was awesome, available, and far more egalitarian.

    I do miss it, the zeitgeist anyway. Sure. Modern speeds and frontends are nice, but everyday people are priced out and corralled, monetized and stalked. We’ve become the coppertops of The Matrix; exploited, mined, and willingly, in some cases, enslaved.

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      Actually, it was probably kind of a boon for us nerds, because cool people would come to us and ask us to make their webpages for them. Now Zuck etc. does it for them…

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      And it’s not like there was any shortage of dummies that actually did, either!

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        No, there weren’t. But that wasn’t a problem because they could be avoided, or they were curiosities. Not like today, where social media keeps shoving them in front of you at every opportunity.

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      It is easier than it’s ever been to host your own website. You could have what most personal websites were like in the 00s without ever once coming out of the free tier in Azure. Domains are still gonna cost you, but actual hosting is pennies.

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        Yes, I don’t disagree that it’s not hard, especially with all the free templates available. Today, however, the odds of anyone ever randomly finding your personal self-hosted website are essentially zero. You don’t have any SEO, no adspace to earn higher search engine priority, nothing. Someone would have to specifically search for you/your site to find you. That’s unlike the early web where your site might randomly show up in a search for whatever hobby/business/interest that you might have included in site text or “about” in the HTML.

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      As does everything else in the list. It’s just that almost no one uses it, because people don’t mind the not owning in exchange of the content.

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          Mate, the world runs on email Excel spreadsheets.

          There, FTFY.

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          Maybe for work, and even that is being overtaken in volume by slack, teams and others. Email is for inter-company communication mostly. The volume of imessage, Snapchat, WhatsApp, signal, reddit and Co dwarves email.

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        It’s just that almost no one uses it, because people eternal September phone users don’t mind the not owning in exchange of the content.

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    The old internet died when we started gamifying human interaction.

    Get rid of up/down votes. Get rid of reputation points. Get rid of Emojis. Get rid of all that shit. That shit has lead to dopamine overload, and the extremism in human interaction both on and offline… cause people don’t just talk to each other anymore. Humans, on the whole, just regurgitate ideas and comments back and forth that previously got high marks, thus getting them high marks. People tend to be afraid to speak unpopular but necessary truths because they are scared of their magic fairy points being reduced by an onslaught of downvotes/dislikes/whatevers, Or god forbid something you said be misconstrued and a whole hate train pile on you because you have 30 downvotes so obviously you are wrong and evil and bad, thus resulting in interaction being skewed ever further towards more and more extremes in content because of the incessant need to fish for that next hit of the gamified reward systems.

    Its toxic as fuck.

    Human interaction shouldnt be gamified. It should just…exist.

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      Voting is great though. It helps sort wheat from chaff.

      … Is what i would like to say, but maybe that only works in smaller communities. I know a YouTuber who is currently getting baselessly harassed by popular assholes and she probably has an insane number of dislikes.

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        Voting is great though. It helps sort wheat from chaff.

        Except it doesnt.

        It just reinforces blind group think, no thought or reason. Upvotes don’t make people more right, downvotes don’t make people more wrong. Its just thoughtless highschool cliquey shit, that was intentionally created to manipulate users into conflict to provoke more engagement… Theres a reason this upvote/downvote shit started on ad driven social media… Only you get to do it all hidden behind the anonymity of a button.

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          it’s not for right and wrong. just a different perspective from sorting by new. unless someone has a better idea. still have to keep a finger on the block button, not just for the terrible and awful stuff, but all that you don’t care about. No omniscient god swooping in to curate the content fairly and truely, and AI is not that.

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      Have an… Errr… Upvote.

      You’re right, it also highly goes against a lot of small groups, neurodivergent with different understanding etc.

      It’s literally out of control with no corrective.

      But yay internet points.

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    Blogs never begged for dopamine

    The little counter I put on my page certainly did! Got so excited when it reached 100, even though it was mostly me.

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      But you never made an onlyfans to channel more traffic and then eventually get caught up in a cartel and get owned and sold by a pimp even though on paper it looked as if you were making your own choices.

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    past tense

    I still use these things. People who post this shit are telling on themselves.

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    We used to make our own WEB PAGES!