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Biden had one (1) job. And that was to save the union from fascism. He misunderstood, appointed Merrick Fucking Sit On His Hands Garland because of vibes or some shit, and then fucked around. Now we are all finding out what it is like to live under fascism. Thanks Biden!
Garland would have been on the Supreme Court if not for Trump, it was thought Garland would come after Trump for revenge over it…
Lol no
I’m pretty sure they wanted Trump to run again because they still, for some ungodly reason, thought they’d have an easy win against him in 2024.
Don’t forget:
1-Enabled genocide against increasing opposition from his base. 2-Didn’t go after Trump for treason. 3-Didn’t go after price gouging, giving Trump a massive gift for his campaign. 4-Refused to step down despite clearly being unfit for a second term.
Biden did have a fair number of accomplishments during his term, but each one of these failures outweighs all of them combined.
Liberal voters liked Biden so much the emulated him by doing nothing to stop Trump.
Your thinking of the fake “progressives” that did nothing on election day.
I don’t know if two is exactly Fair. I would say more importantly that that he appointed Merrick Garland a fucking useless milk toast. That Garland didn’t go after Trump. I’m okay with the president not personally conducting investigations and trials.
lol it’s milquetoast and that gives me hope for Lemmy not being entirely populated by bots right at this moment
Eh, same difference. I very much doubt he appointed Garland without knowing exactly what he’d do (or, more accurately, not do).
That’s never really the impression I had from him being appointed. I don’t think that much thought really went into it. I think it was more of a kind of a stunt/ fuck you to the Republicans for not letting him be on the Supreme Court. Kind of a see we’re going to use them since y’all wouldn’t. Which I think they regretted later. So I guess what I’m really saying is it’s Obama’s fault lol.
- when everyone is price gouging and the high prices stick, that’s inflation, which Biden did go after.
Too bad Biden will be remembered for his greed and wanting a second term just to doom us to Trump’s second term. All the good he did will be wiped out over the next 4 years.
Ironic since all of those bills were heavily cut down to gain “bipartisan” support and then Republicans still refused to vote for them, classic Democrat move. Kinda like how he gave up the race to Trump and then went on a photo tour with him like they’re buddies (which is pretty massive evidence for the Uniparty theory imo).
I am not American, but I believe in the Biden side someone forgot to add “Genocide enabler”; And yeah I guess it goes on trump’s side too. But I wonder if that affected the campaign trail.
There’s a difference between enabler and maximizer.
The dilemma is if most people understand trump would be a maximizer and don’t want it, Biden might be less an enabler.
Ultimately, American people as a whole are the real genocide enabler.
There’s a difference between enabler and maximizer.
Yea, everyone knows. And it’s a painful choice to make regardless of your decision. I resent the conditions that doom us to choose between a cop and a gangster.
Trump was never going to stop any war, but I think the question is about the people who didn’t vote. Maybe people don’t see viable alternatives? Maybe people are hopeless over there? Why do I keep seeing more and more American immigrants in my country? Maybe people are running from something?
Again, I am a foreigner; But the way I see it; The American government seems very invested on the Genocide of the people of Gaza. On the other hand; The polls I keep seeing on the matter say that American citizens would rather have all that money spent on better healthcare than Giving Israel weapons to kill unarmed civilians.
Now this is just a thought, but maybe, just maybeeee, condemning the indiscriminate killing of those people and running on better healthcare might have improved their chances of winning.
Also maybe that contradiction of morality was a boon to the Republican party to exploit during the election. Like feeding on the hopelessness of a voter base that doesn’t support all the decisions of what is supposed to be their party.
Poll is misleading. No one will say they don’t want better health care, but when voting, most choose the man can keep the pax-America illusion on a bit longer.
There has not, and will likely never be, a US president who is not sympathetic to Israel. It’s just variations of support. Kamala would not have been any different than Biden.
That’s precisely why she lost
lol ok. Look how great Trump is doing with it.
No, check the exit polls. Harris said the economy was fine and Trump said he’d fix it.
Sure, agreed. My point was that enthusiam for Harris peaked when she chose Tim Walz over Josh Shapiro as VP, signaling a more progressive path. It came crashing down shortly after when she said she would do nothing different from Biden. People are sick of status quo politics.
That is true; And it was major weakness for their campaign; A weakness that I believe they underestimated. I am not talking about just the republicans. Any foreign actor could use that weakness to instill doubt and despair on voters that don’t support genocide. I remember a few years back trump was playing this whole ridiculous “Maga communism” angle. As a foreigner, I see on one side a party that is willing to lie cheat and say anything to win And on the other side a party that finds it difficult to capitulate to their voters. The fact that the first one won by such a small margin tells us that the Democrats still have an overwhelming support.
The ‘Maga communism’ is still alive and well, sadly. The ACP took over the r/socialist sub on reddit.
As usual, mass propaganda turns the world black and white, and divides people exactly into two groups to make sure they never unite.
By the way, you can acknowledge that both sides are made up of the worst scum human history has ever seen and vote for the “lesser evil” at the same time! You don’t have to, and you probably shouldn’t let your vote influence your entire personality and/or belief system.
Both sides can’t be “the worst” if one is “the lesser evil”.
If it’s not your first language it’s confusing, try interpreting “the worst” as “evil”.
The most evil scum human history has seen
Makes perfect sense
Both sides can’t be “evil” if one is “the lesser evil”.
Doesn’t make sense.
Hope that helps!
Both sides can be evil, both sides can’t be “the most” evil if one is the lesser evil.
As a collective, as in, you group both sides into one group of “democratic and republican politicians”, that group is made up of the worst scum human history has ever seen.
Now if you put the individual people in a scale, or break them into certain groups, some will be less bad/evil than others. But that doesn’t change the original statement.
It does. Either they are the most, or they aren’t.
Correct. The group, as a whole, are the most.
Maybe you need a different example to understand.
Take the 400 wealthiest people in the world. They make 2 gangs, first one is made up of the top 200 richest and the second is made up of the 201-400 richest people.
The first group is the richest of the two. But the 2 groups, as a whole, are made up of the richest people in the world.
Make sense?
It doesn’t, because the ideas contradict each other. The top 200 is the richest. Of course other bigger groups contain it. The earth population is the best, and the worst at any metric.
Ah, you’re just being a pedant. My bad.
They said both sides are made up of the worst. Not both sides are the worst.
The key difference between your interpretation and how it’s written is the mutual exclusivity. By stating ‘they are the worst’, then yes only one would be the worst. But to say “both are comprised of” doesn’t bring about the same exclusivity as the former.
Imagine there are two benches, if I say to you, both are made up of wood; you wouldn’t then turn around say only one bench could possibly be wood. The same is still true if I say ‘the two benches are made up of the worst wood’. Bench A is 95% worst wood, whereas bench B is 50% worst wood, Both are made up of the worst wood; but one is lesser worst wood, and the statement ‘both benches are made up of the worst wood’ is still true.
at best is dark gray and black. there aren’t any acceptable candidates. no one is perfect, but come on. how hard is it not to have neoliberal war criminals?
He only did genocide like a smol bean 🥹
Well, the other one actually did genocide like a big bean. Biden failed to do anything to stop it, Trump actively helped.
But both sides, amirite?Biden sent some 18 billion dollars in weapons to Israel. He sanctioned the ICC for seeking to arrest Netanyahu. College protestors were beaten up by police and Zio-mobs with the support of Biden. Biden spread lies about beheaded babies on October 7 to justify the mass slaughter of Palestinian children.
Biden deliberately failed to secure a ceasefire when all it needed was a proper phone call. Meanwhile Trump managed that for two months. Biden is this deep in hell on genocide support that Trump so far performed better than him.
But when that was pointed out before the election people went on to defend genocide as somehow acceptable and God forbid demanding to stop it because then AIPAC and the Elon Musk Nazi salute fans from the ADL would have been pissed.
I think selling them weapons and defending Israel from reprisal in criminal courts, and delegitimization of the call of a genocide is not “failing to stop it”, its full blown complicity. The only thing that i see that trump has done any different is attacking freedoms of speech and the right to assemble here to prevent people from protesting over our complicity in a genocide, though to bombed innocents in Gaza, that distinctions means very little.
Biden was a great president
He was an okay president
He bombed children, screwed over the poor and working class, and backed a genocide. He was an average president, which is to say: A terrible president.
Hey, that’s not true! He failed to bring peace to the Middle East (which has been in a constant state of turmoil or imperialist occupation for one reason or another since the Romans took over Judea)!
Are you fucking kidding me? Go spread your historically illiterate (and very racist) misinformation elsewhere; the Middle East under the Ottoman empire was exceptionally stable before European imperialism wrecked the region.
My bad, apparently if the imperialism gets strong enough the region becomes stable. Good take-away, thanks for letting me know.
Man some of y’all really do deserve fascism.
You mean Jill, right? Because Joe’s brains were leaking out of his skull in an unimaginably grotesque display of elder abuse for at least the last 2.5 years of the Biden presidency.
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It isn’t a great list considering the child tax credit was a provision of the american rescue plan, the pact act is a particularly small bill that targeted military veterans, and there’s nothing past 2022.
Recognition of four accomplishments in two years gets buried quick by the inaction and inability of the following the next two.
Also the IRA is largely getting blocked or repealed. It would have been great had it been implemented but calling it an accomplishment seems like a stretch given the current situation.
It isn’t a great list
The bar isn’t very high.
People have all their excuses lined up. I saw a lot of what I called “b b but why didn’t he do everything, everywhere, all at once?”
I guess it depends where you live 🇵🇸
People don’t want solutions. They want to complain.
So there’s two factors that gave Trump (barely) the election (all the battleground states were narrowly chosen)
One, I speculate and no one seems to be addressing, is the trillion-dollar far-right propaganda machine. FOX News, OANN, Michael Walsh, Ben Shapiro, Joe Rogan and so on. It’s continuously pumping content out to the population telling them that liberals are all communists and women should all be tradwives. Also that everyone nonwhite or poor is a leech on the economy.
The other is the King Log vs. King Stork thing. In those industrialized nations where the left-side party is neoliberal (preserves the status quo), the far right parties get strong support. It was happening across Europe around when Trump got elected, though there’s been a left-side push-back since, possibly due to Trump providing a visible example of who they don’t want in office. Canada’s economist / banker PM was elected due to Trump, we are pretty sure.
Biden was as right wing as they come in the Democratic party, and for 2020 the party’s principals (who get their own votes) chose him, deciding that everyone else was too socialist for them. Biden was Biden (that is, an establishment neoliberal) with some efforts to appeal to the public. And then in 2024 he pulled out of the race, and Harris took over and in the last few months of campaigning appealed to less-nazi Republicans, which alienated her base.
The election was won by MAGA disciples voting only top ballot (for Trump and nothing else) and lost by low-information Democrats who weren’t motivated or decided to send a message by failing to show.
Regardless, figuring out how he won is more important than figuring out how to get rid of him, because even if he dies, the GOP is going to churn out Secret Hitler after Secret Hitler, and the Democratic party, determined not to go left, is going to fall into irrelevance, just before they are imprisoned / killed as political enemies.
lost by low-information Democrats
Seventy-seven million people voted to unperson huge demographics of Americans which has included both legal aliens and American citizens, which is a breach of the social contract.
So yeah, the voters were wrong. Now we’re trying to figure out why, and whether the human species is just doomed to stratified societies and extinction through industrial pollution.
Don’t forget about the efforts to disenfranchise voters. Registered voter roll purges. Threats against their physical safety. Bomb threats. Closing of polling locations in blue districts. Overwhelmingly long lines in blue districts. Probationary ballots. Signature verification.
FFS it took me 6 months to renew my DL in a red state. The minute I got fed up with it and drove two hours to the middle of no where I was able to renew that same day. The voter disenfranchisement is real and intentional.
The GOP effectively purged almost 5 million votes from the voter rolls.
Look how many votes trump won by.
Yeah I’m not sure I buy the whole Musk-stole-the-election thing with hacked machines and starlink. But I know with certainty that they stole the election by preventing people from voting.
There are certainly some mathematical abnormalities with the voting data indicative of manipulation. Whether that’s actual tampering with voting machines like Trump inferred or just maga hats voting for the first time only for their god king is hard to say for sure.
This. I personally think they hacked the election, and they also purged the voter rolls.
TIL I learned about King Log vs. King Stork / Heron / Snake
Do not glorify Biden. Go back to Obama if you want an actual worthwhile role model. Biden was 110% on board with Bush in going to Iraq and spent the last 20 years of his career aggressively trying to break social security. Fuck boomer Biden.
I would say Obama is even worse than Biden as a role model to glorify.
You can draw a direct line between Obama’s fellating of wall street and the rise to power of MAGA. He was elected on a mandate to punish the bankers and utterly failed at this task, he failed to enshrine Roe Vs Wade, and started a few wars. Combine this with other events like the management of Bernie Sanders’ first attempt at the presidency, and you have a spectacularly inept democrat party that lost all credibility/appeal with swing voters.
Taking the current politics at face value, Trump would have 0 appeal if the democrats had a reasonable management of the border, if the democrats had actual economic politics instead of identity politics and didn’t bend the knee to the military industrial complex as much as republicans did.
Which wars did Obama start?
I might have misspoke: it would be more accurate to state that he got the US involved in wars, rather than starting them. More specifically, he’s criticized for getting the US in five wars and saber rattling with Iran.
So…
Afghanistan that Obama inherited from W., 2 wars in Iraq Obama inherited from W., training Syrian troops (who eventually did win) as a result of the Arab Spring and Assad gassing his own people which Obama did not start, and countering Yemen’s Houthi aggression which could really be argued that Obama did too little to counter as we are still dealing with it to this day with Iran aiding the Houthis…
Iran has been a problem for the US since the Carter administration, can’t really say Obama started that one either
Still unclear which if any of these conflicts Obama involved in
Sometimes it is best to be on the right side of history by being involved in a military conflict.
Being involved in a conflict does not automatically make it a bad thing
I don’t really feel like rehashing all the ways that the Iraq/Afghanistan war were disastrous
training Syrian troops (who eventually did win) as a result of the Arab Spring and Assad gassing his own people which Obama did not start
You need to read about Timber Sycamore. Assad did a lot of bad things, but it’s mental to imply that it was worth investing in Al-Qaeda affiliated militias to overthrow him. The new leader in Syria had a $10* million bounty on his head before rising to power in Syria, he is a leader of a splinter group of Al-Qaeda.
The Assad overthrow is not the pure-wholesome western win that you think it is. Sectarian minorities have been ethnically cleansed by these Syrian rebels now in power.
If you think that this is a success story from Obama’s admin, I’m afraid there’s no point discussing any longer.
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Is it because the CIA was involved that you automatically assume it was bad or that Al-Qaeda is the same organization it was 25 years ago?
25 years ago? The guy was wanted as a terrorist with a $10m bounty in 2017, the fuck you mean “25 years ago”. The bounty was rescinded because he overthrew a government seen as hostile by Israel and the US.
Are you just ignoring the article I linked describing mass killings of Alawite? Are you trying to defend those guys?
“the border” is a republican red herring, there’s basically nothing to fix, drugs and immigrants come other ways. Immigrants commit crimes at a rate much lower than citizens. It’s all republican lies that democrats are somehow fix.
Otherwise you can read about the hotels being turned into expensive migrant refuges, which I’ve seen reported about across the country. The government was paying for that, for non-citizens, during an ongoing homelessness crisis.
Look at all the cheap slave-labor that vanished into thin air the moment Trump started deporting people.
You guys absolutely had a problem with immigration. And not only did the democrats not offer any actual solution, the problem got worse under their watch. This is a prime example of democrats having useless identity politics where they address problems by brow-beating people and calling them racist, rather than doing anything for their citizens.
Across the country != the border
I didn’t say no problems with immigration. Please leave the goalpost where it was.
Then explain your point better because you aren’t making sense.
“there’s basically nothing to fix” => “I didn’t say no problems with immigration.”
Basically nothing != nothing
At least he really pushed back against the ongoing genoci- oh wait, no, he did the opposite of that.
*Jimmy Carter
He was the guy who knew what needed to be done decades beforehand and was ousted by the mechanations of the neocons. I wonder how much could be different if Reagan wasn’t able to make that deal with Iran to win the election.
i once tried to go president by president in Wikipedia wondering how far I have to go before I find one president that didn’t commit war crimes.
i gave up,
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Gonna also address why his nickname in Congress was Jim Crow Joe?
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No, it originated from a 1975 Senate hearing where civil rights lawyer Jack Greenberg took Joe Biden to task for sponsoring bills that would prevent desegregation in Delaware.
The nickname really caught on after the series of “new Jim Crow” legislation, nomination, etc. that culminated in the 90s crime bill.
He was chosen as Obama’s VP explicitly due to that history along with that nickname as a form of appeasement with the “white moderates”.
This isn’t the fault of a corrupt politician … or a corrupt political party … or a corrupt opposition political party
It’s the American people who just blinded accept all this, vote for it, don’t question it and do as little as possible about it all and just live with it and hope that it all just goes away on its own.
The American people didn’t blindly vote for this. Fox News (among others) has been brainwashing them for decades. Fox is the number one watched source of news. Republicans have also destroyed education and regulations to allow for people to be brainwashed.
It’s not as simple as laziness.
I sympathize with all that … because we are suffering with the same here in Canada to a lesser degree … but I’m in a northern area away from the cities where we have historically always voted for the left or center and seldom the right wing parties.
We are keeping our heads above water but I can feel the undertow of right wing politics all the time. No matter what happens, I’ll always be left (the NDP party) even if it means we lose, I’ll never give it to the politics of hate, fear or anxiety just because some dumb politician or television told me so.
adding in election rigging and inteference from the gop/musk and russia. in the last 3 presidential eleciton that was never investigated i might add. even calling out MITCHs election rigging dint make a peep int he news.
They both support their genocidal garrison state no questions asked.
this makes trump look like a funny cartoon villain stealing candy from the elderly, rather than a nazi intentionally persecuting minorities.
Biden boasted about having deported more people during his term than Trump did during his first term…
And then there also is the whole genocide thing and DNC people attacking minorities as stupid and disloyal for not having turned out for them any longer, showing what they really think of people who aren’t white or upper class.
It also makes the left broadly look like people who character-worship their own “leader” just like the right has “their guy.”
I can’t speak for all liberals, but I kind of think this is one of the primary “dividing lines” between the political spectrums in America. There are the people who latch onto simple narratives and power-structures like “USA GOOD LEADER GOOD” and people who are very skeptical of power and look at your government like OUR employees and should be held to account no matter what their politics are. Both sides keep projecting their own values onto the other and are making ZERO progress because of this.
