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Ok, I’m a cranky old nerd. I’ll say some silly shit here …
Nobody should have the Facebook or Instagram apps installed on their phone.
For one thing, those are websites. You don’t need the app.
For another, they kill your battery because they are so damn busy spying on you.
Really, there have absolutely always been known privacy issues with those. This whole thing was known well before they proved the exact methodUntil this phone, Facebook always came installed and couldn’t be uninstall without hacking the phone.
In the phones I’ve had, you could deactivate it even if it can’t be uninstalled.
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This is the correct answer. When I get a new phone I rip out the bloatware and disable the rest. It usually takes a couple days to achieve a minimal but stable config. Yes updates reenable things. Maintenance is required if you want privacy.
Sounds like they can’t track people that don’t have their app. So, not something I need to worry about.
…but what about everyone you are frequently interacting with? Not as bad obviously but I don’t think you fully escape the effect is what I am saying.
That doesn’t matter for this particular issue as far as I can tell. This is about tracking what Facebook a user does on their device outside of the Facebook app. Even if I used my friend’s phone who uses Facebook, it would count toward their profile. Same as if someone else watches stuff on your Netflix profile.
I don’t have the Facebook app nor do I have an account. This method of tracking is useless for those like me.
Facebook definitely has pictures of me that others have posted. People talking about me, etc. Not sure there’s anything I can do about that.
Meta casts a wide net with all their apps. Maybe someone deletes their Facebook app but still needs WhatsApp to communicate with family, for example. I love the idea of that app in particular “not looking at your messages” while it learns about all your out-of-app browsing behavior without your knowledge or consent.
The fb share button on websites is problematic. Website tracking is problematic. Archivers are my go-to.
FYI you sound incredibly self-centered and unpleasant.
Because I don’t use Facebook? That’s new.
Because you indicate that you don’t care if it happens to others as long as it doesn’t happen to you.
You’re reading a lot into the two sentences I posted. AKA, making shit up.
That’s why I said “you sound” like that and not “you are”. Those two sentences are all you posted. I’m just telling you how they come across to me.
Of course it’s self centring; you’re not thinking about the money billionaires could make from your data, you communist! How will their children eat?
Gonna have to be Wagyu instead of caviar and foie gras. I’m a monster.
It could cost Meta 32 billion.
US law: “Best I can do is 15 thousand.”
EU law: “How about percentage of global revenue per infraction?”
Meta: “Okay. 0.00001%”.
They don’t ask them what they want to pay or what they claim the revenue was, they look at the numbers:
Art. 83(5) GDPR, the fine framework can be up to 20 million euros, or in the case of an undertaking, up to 4 % of their total global turnover of the preceding fiscal year, whichever is higher.
https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/fines-penalties/
Although realistically speaking they’re probably just getting fined for one “infringement”, despite committing quite a lot.
In real life people think it is weird that I don’t use apps; even if this is obvious to us, we are also a bunch of anarchists on a defederated internet forum. Explanations and examples like this will help us protect the normal people who don’t think like us (yet).
I’m curious if Meta could do this with their apps, can other apps do something similar?
I doubt a lot of Lemmy users have got those apps on their phones. Although I am curious about how it would affect people who, say, used Island or similar (leverage the Work profile) to install them as I have seen that suggested in privacy communities before. Would Meta only be able to access other apps installed to that profile - if you had a browser installed in it too for example?
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And how much did they profit off of it…?
